ripsweetness Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 I have narrowed my downpipe search to Invidia catted downpipe Pros (price/ divorced) Cons (im aware of waste gate issue) Cobb catted downpipe Pros (fitment/build quality) Cons (price) Now has anybody seen or heard of cracks or any problems at all with the reliability of the Invidia Down pipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness of Death Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 wasn't there fitment issues with the invidia? or was that another brand? ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripsweetness Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 Yeah the fittment issue is with the turbos waste gate hitting the divorced section within the down pipe but there is a thread on here on how to fix it and it looks like a minor fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addison Posted August 5, 2008 Share Posted August 5, 2008 i am very pleased with the harmon motive downpipe... its basically cobb's downpipe except its $50 cheaper and it has a true 3" outlet so you dont have to spend more money getting a new flange put on it if you go that route. if you want it to mate up to the oem catback or a 2.5" catback you can get a flange adaptor like im currently running now (works great, no leaks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripsweetness Posted August 5, 2008 Author Share Posted August 5, 2008 i am very pleased with the harmon motive downpipe... its basically cobb's downpipe except its $50 cheaper and it has a true 3" outlet so you dont have to spend more money getting a new flange put on it if you go that route. if you want it to mate up to the oem catback or a 2.5" catback you can get a flange adaptor like im currently running now (works great, no leaks) How much louder than stock is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness of Death Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 i thought that would be more towards the exhaust than the downpipe ~ i'm running the borla and it was much louder than i was expecting. so i just put a second resonator on it.. not so annoying now ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addison Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 How much louder than stock is it? i was hogzausted pre dp install but i took them out post install - i think volume wise it was about the same but its much more of a clean sound rather than the raw one of the hogzaust... its catted so volume is lower yet you can still make it roar and backfire if desired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ripsweetness Posted August 6, 2008 Author Share Posted August 6, 2008 i thought that would be more towards the exhaust than the downpipe ~ i'm running the borla and it was much louder than i was expecting. so i just put a second resonator on it.. not so annoying now ~ Its all a puzzle. Each piece throughout the entire exhaust changes the sound. The more you focus on each piece being as quiet as possible the lower overall sound you will have. Do you regret the borla? I heard it was one of the more quiet exhausts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-gorithm Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 The invidia has the 3" flange facing a tad upwards and might cause issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness of Death Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Its all a puzzle. Each piece throughout the entire exhaust changes the sound. The more you focus on each piece being as quiet as possible the lower overall sound you will have. Do you regret the borla? I heard it was one of the more quiet exhausts? i went with the borla because it was said to be one of the more quiet exhausts-obviously not true.. but it makes me wonder what the loudest exhaust setup sounds like then.. at the time i was interested in the megan racing quad tip..but there seemed to be fitment issues with that... i hear the prodrives are nice..but i'm not sure about quietness/noise level on those babies ~ another note about the borla is that it's 2.5 piping..or 2.75..so it's restricting airflow. if i knew that it was that size piping, i also wouldn't have gone with it ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymesbry Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 well ive had my "modified" catted invidia downpipe for about a year and a half now (probably about 35k miles) and no problems, well besides the initially cutting and welding to make it fit the megan racing quad tip. If they fixed this issue, then i would definitely recommend it (I dont know if they ever changed the design, i purchased it on the first group buy..) and its very quiet, much to my surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korpsepatrol Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 The prodrives are quieter than borla's. However you cannot find a prodrive set in any retail shop unless they forgot its back in inventory since they left the U.S. but are supposedly coming back. The piping on most exhausts are 3 inch's and it sucks that some don't specify diameter. 2008 6mt Legacy Gt Spec B DGM - Not so Stock/Work in progress 2006 5mt Legacy Gt OBP - Sold 2005 5eat Legacy Gt OBP - RIP R.I.P Coxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addison Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 magnaflow is actually pretty quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookslikeanevo Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I was one of the firsts to have the invidia...still on the car no problems mating with my megan quadtips Current:MY05 SWP wagon - 253/290 UP, AEM CAI, Invidia Q300, tuned@yimisport OLD: MY06 GRP - 274/314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korpsepatrol Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 magnaflow is actually pretty quiet compared to what, the perrin!? Those mufflers are in the louder spectrum. Definitely louder than the borla's and the x02's. The following mufflers are as quiet as you can get(please feel free to put your input): Prodrives Lachutes Avo Stock Mufflers(many members have this setup including me mated to a 3inch turbo back since it adds just enough sound) Remember this is also using a 3 inch turbo back before the mufflers. Your experience my differ if you use a catless turbo back. On the other end if you have stock piping and you change ONLY your mufflers than tons of mufflers will be rather subdued. 2008 6mt Legacy Gt Spec B DGM - Not so Stock/Work in progress 2006 5mt Legacy Gt OBP - Sold 2005 5eat Legacy Gt OBP - RIP R.I.P Coxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polak91 Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I have heard issues with the invidia. Like the end of the downpipe mating wrong with the cat-back. Also something about the divorced piece. Imho if you aren't going to upgrade cat-back or you are going with borla, cobb, or magnaflow cat-backs(they all are 2.5 to mate to dp) then go with the cobb. I am actually getting one delivered today and can't wait. i chose cobb because of the brand and because not going to be upgrading cat-back, and because everyone who has one loves the fitment and quality. If you dont want to pay sticker price wait for a used one like i did. I got a deal 3 months old and 450 with heat wrap. 8) As for quiet exhausts i have heard that borla is one of the quietest but it has one of the classiest sounds. Go to the review section of this forum and look at what people said about the dp's and about the cat-backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korpsepatrol Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Yes the cobb dp's are good but in order to get a full 3 inch you gotta do a bit of work to them. I am very happy with my invidia dp. Borla's are very quiet compared to many full cbe's. 2008 6mt Legacy Gt Spec B DGM - Not so Stock/Work in progress 2006 5mt Legacy Gt OBP - Sold 2005 5eat Legacy Gt OBP - RIP R.I.P Coxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasone Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I'm running Invidia catless and Magnaflow -- aside from the divorced bellmouth, you shouldn't have any problems. I took the mid to a muffler shop and had them weld a 3" flat flange, fit right up. As far as the sound goes, eh I guess it's pretty loud. Can't really tell if the windows are up. Still not so loud that it's annoying or anything... then again I did own an '84 Lincoln Mark VII with straight pipes, so... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 My Indiva UP has performed flawlessly, has been in there for about 30,000 miles. Based on that experience I would imagint the DP would be a good choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al-gorithm Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 Maybe it's the V.2 that's causing an issue. I know for WRX/STi downpipes there was a second revision, maybe they did the same cause this one is pretty much new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addison Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 compared to what, the perrin!? Those mufflers are in the louder spectrum. Definitely louder than the borla's and the x02's. The following mufflers are as quiet as you can get(please feel free to put your input): Prodrives Lachutes Avo Stock Mufflers(many members have this setup including me mated to a 3inch turbo back since it adds just enough sound) Remember this is also using a 3 inch turbo back before the mufflers. Your experience my differ if you use a catless turbo back. On the other end if you have stock piping and you change ONLY your mufflers than tons of mufflers will be rather subdued. check tthis out.... [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1u2bjW0wo3E]YouTube - Legacy Spec.B Drive by with Magnaflow (no resonator)[/ame] granted its a youtube video so audio isnt the best but i think thats pretty quiet compared to a lot of other systems... no its not the quietest but thats a turboback set up not just a video of the catback Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
korpsepatrol Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 I can't see the video since i am at work but i have seen the magnaflows in person from two members...and sorry to say in my opinion its a bit loud, of course if your comparing it to what wrx's and sti's use then yes its not as loud. Something i failed to mention, everyone has their own tastes. I for one do now like a loud exhaust. To one person an exhaust is quiet to another its effin loud. For example...if no one liked loud exhausts NO ONE would buy a perrin set up, but many people run that setup and find it to be perfect, and its not cause its cheap since its A grand for a perrin cbe. To each his own. 2008 6mt Legacy Gt Spec B DGM - Not so Stock/Work in progress 2006 5mt Legacy Gt OBP - Sold 2005 5eat Legacy Gt OBP - RIP R.I.P Coxx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasone Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 It's loud at WOT, it's not loud cruising at low RPM. It also retains it's deep tone through the RPMs, and the backfires that I get running catless are deep too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkness of Death Posted August 6, 2008 Share Posted August 6, 2008 backfire is nice. ....but that's also an opinion issue as well ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasone Posted August 7, 2008 Share Posted August 7, 2008 I have to get it fairly hot for backfires to start, and they really don't happen frequently so it doesn't bother me. Apparently from someone in an Impreza that was following me if I'm really on it, I throw flames out of both tips. I'm not particularly excited about that, but meh. Part of running catless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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