mycl Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 [url=http://www.drive.com.au/news/article.asp?article=http://drive.fairfax.com.au/content-new/news/general/2004/09/27/FFX114LILZD.html] 3.0R Review - The Age [/url] Somewhat average review of the auto 3.0r. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerdave Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 Thanks for posting, Dizz. Pretty good review. I found the Spec-B comments interesting (like it's still fairly compliant). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT Ski Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Check it out, Edmunds does a long term test of a GT: [url]http://www.edmunds.com/new/2005/subaru/legacy/100396955/roadtestarticle.html?articleId=103180&tid=edmunds.h..wkedmunds.longterm.1g.*[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubaruFlamingo Posted October 2, 2004 Share Posted October 2, 2004 Consumer reports just had a 4 car review between the A4, S40 T5, LGT, and TSX (same cars as the road and track (or one of the major mags) 4 car comparo). I can scan it in later if you guys want, but they Recommended the Legacy GT and the TSX (what a surprise). Surprised they didnt like the Volvo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black_Legacy Posted October 7, 2004 Share Posted October 7, 2004 I wonder if top gear has done a legacy GT review? Anyone heard or seen anything? Links would be awesome too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmartin Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 I am getting ready to take off for a week of (much-deserved) vacation, so I needed my last "Forum Fix" before I left! Here are the latest Outback and Legacy reviews links. Please post any updates, additions or corrections you'd like to see. Geesh...this is becoming an encyclopedia! Enjoy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtnSub Posted October 10, 2004 Share Posted October 10, 2004 Hey GT Ski, That Edmonds article must make the boys/girls at Suby very happy. Almost wonder if this article should not be noted on general board so others don't miss it. This article does a great job of explaining why I am buying the Leg GT/Ltd vs another BMW3 or X3. Although I think Suby has a way to go to match BMW or Audi on interior materials quality and finish, I like the simplicity, lines and driver orientation of the Suby interior better than new BMWs and as much as Audi. Bangle BMWs are looking more and more like Cadilac. Thought Edmunds was right on about the few shortcomings, but I think Suby has acknowledged these issues and I am anxious to see how fast they respond. They have already added "homelink" in last two months, which I ordered for my car. Great article, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolbo Posted October 12, 2004 Share Posted October 12, 2004 [url]http://autozine.kyul.net/html/Subaru2.htm#Legacy[/url] 3.0R Sorry if posted prior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xee Posted October 13, 2004 Share Posted October 13, 2004 [url]http://www.autoblog.com/entry/5325545909033078/[/url] Don't know if this is official or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycl Posted October 30, 2004 Share Posted October 30, 2004 The Age - 3.0R-B Review - 4 out of 5 stars. [url]http://www.drive.com.au/news/article.asp?article=http://drive.fairfax.com.au/content-new/news/general/2004/10/29/FFXG0YN8V0E.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 "Got the goodies: The versatile Legacy GT could be sleeper car of the year" [url]http://www.portlandtribune.com/adxl8.cgi?id=F102104[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 [quote name='trseeley']"Got the goodies: The versatile Legacy GT could be sleeper car of the year" [url]http://www.portlandtribune.com/adxl8.cgi?id=F102104[/url][/QUOTE] Where did they get 10 speakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRS Posted November 7, 2004 Share Posted November 7, 2004 Legacy - [url]http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2004/10/14/252908.html[/url] Outback - [url]http://www.theautochannel.com/news/2004/11/04/272654.html[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennis72 Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 hey, there is a new outback 2.5XT test drive report from the CanadianDriver.com [url]http://www.canadiandriver.com/roadtest/05outback_xt.htm[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LegacyGT330Ci Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 [quote name='trseeley']"Got the goodies: The versatile Legacy GT could be sleeper car of the year" [url]http://www.portlandtribune.com/adxl8.cgi?id=F102104[/url][/QUOTE] Where did he get that the wagon weighs 300 extra pounds? '05 Black Legacy GT Wagon 5-spd '02 Topaz/Black 330Ci 5-spd Drift Ryder's School of Rally Arts, coming to an Australia near you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dans 05 GT Posted November 11, 2004 Share Posted November 11, 2004 I also wonder where he came up with 300 extra pounds for the wagon. A quick look at Subaru specs show his bias against the wagon. The base 2.5i sedan with manual transmission weighs 3200 lbs, a 2.5 GT Limited wagon with an automatic transmission weighs 3500 lbs. That is where he came up with the 300 lb figure. A 2.5i sedan with manual transmission weighs 3200 lbs, a 2.5i wagon with manual transmission weighs 3255 lbs. That's a 55 lb increase for the wagon, not 300 lbs! The weight difference increases to 70 lbs when comparing the GT Limited 5MT sedan with the GT Limited 5MT wagon. Figures don't lie but Dennis Pittsenbarger figures. Go figure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der5er Posted November 15, 2004 Share Posted November 15, 2004 I apologize if this has been mentioned already, maybe I've missed it. The Nov 05 issue of Evo (UK car mag) features a "driven" test of a Legacy 3.0R Spec B. The article is available online but registration is required. Home page link: [url="http://www.evo.co.uk/front_evo_homepage/front_evo_homepage.php"]http://www.evo.co.uk/front_evo_homepage/front_evo_homepage.php[/url]. I won't quote it, in its entirety or partially, for obvious reasons. I thought a synopsis (as I read it) might be useful for those fighting the indecision to buy the mag/register with the evil website for a glance at the article. Overall, they were rather unimpressed with the car, managing to author a full-page article without saying anything, praise or scorn. Apparently this model gets a 6 speed manual, adapted from the STi to be more refined. They found the styling to be on the bland side of discreet and the car to be quite narrow from the rear. For some reason, they claim Subaru aimed this car at the Jaguar XJ and BMW's 5. I think they simply misunderstood Subaru's marketing campaign, that compares the Legacy with anything except airplanes and oil tankers. More blandness (or cleanliness) is found inside, although the car is refined - faint praise alert - so much so that the idle engine noise competes with the AC fan for acoustic dominance. They found the seat to be too tall in its lowest setting (I concur) and the steering wheel adjustment to be lacking. But, the wheel is small and sporty. The engine is strong and smooth, the gear ratios are well assigned. They call the ride "knobbly" around town, identified mild understeer and attributed its uninvolving drive to the numb steering (I concur again, at least with the latter part). They don't see people migrating from X Jags or 3 BMWs to this car, although it does (and will) happen at least in the US. But then again, Europe is a bit different - slightly adverse to Japanese cars, unless they've won a WR event or five. In conclusion, it's a fine car with "plenty of kit" without being a "must-have". The same issue features two more Subaru products - an STi Type-UK and a Forrester 2.5XT. My cursory glance at that article made me think they found quite a bit more good words to say about the Forrester. HTH, Dragos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vamp Posted November 17, 2004 Share Posted November 17, 2004 Hi, Not sure if anyone posted this but here's the latest R&T review of the LGT vs TSX: [url]http://www.roadandtrack.com/article.asp?print_page=y§ion_id=31&article_id=1589&page_number=1&preview=[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 The upcoming Consumer Reports tests the Outback, Volvo V50, Mazda 6, BMW X3 and Toyota Highlander wagons. It recommends the Outback and Highlander only, though it cites the Outback's at-the-limit tendency for the tail to come out, and longish braking distances, which shouldn't surprise anyone familiar with the car's stock rubber. It also says that the base flat-four is a dog off the line, but loves the headlights, steering and handling, interior, cargo capacity, pretty much everything except a few nits. It also likes the crash ratings. They said the X3 is expensive and slow, the Volvo is expensive and little plus the headlights are mediocre, etc, etc. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycl Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Some more in-depth reviews of the Aus Liberty/legacy GT 5MT. Check out the 2 reviews at the bottom. [url]http://carpoint.ninemsn.com.au/portal/alias__carpointau/tabID__6485/ArticleID__5381/DesktopDefault.aspx[/url] So do u 5MT USDM guys also stink up the clutch on those high-rpm launches?!? :) "While these are impressive numbers at first glance, and Subaru quotes a 0-100km/h time of 5.7sec, the engine doesn't yield its best at low rpm. Indeed, unlike the cooking model 2.5i, the GT feels 'thin' and is easy to stall when manoeuvring at low speed. This trait wasn't helped by our test car's clutch which had a high (and narrow) take-up point. Was this a symptom of a hard life prior to arriving at CarPoint? Perhaps, ham-fisted punters and grippy low-profile rubber can play havoc on manual all-wheel-drive mechanicals. Certainly any attempt to launch our GT hard was accompanied with the sort of odours you'd associate with a clutch past its use-by date. Once moving, things did improve -- rapidly. Indeed, in-gear acceleration at trans-urban speeds was muscular with little of the turbo lag that beset the last generation twin-turbo Liberty B4. Change the environment to the open road and the delivery is even better. Freeway on-ramps become an event and third or fourth gear overtaking performance rivals cars twice the price and engine capacity." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted November 20, 2004 Share Posted November 20, 2004 Yes, mycl, we get the stink on high-rpm launches, even when the car is new. :lol: Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smada Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Did a quick search and didn't see this, but look at the 0-60 times reported here: [url]http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/38236[/url] They must either not know how to drive or got some bad info.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 [quote name='Smada']Did a quick search and didn't see this, but look at the 0-60 times reported here: [url="http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/38236"]http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/38236[/url] They must either not know how to drive or got some bad info..[/QUOTE] Or they didn't launch, or they have an auto and didn't launch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smada Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 But an even an auto without launching will hit better than 7.8 in 0-60.. That is the same 0-60 score they listed for the Honda Pilot! I have a GT and a Pilot and I know for a fact the LGT is a helluva lot faster than our Pilot! I sent them an email and got an autoresponse saying they will try to answer my question/comment quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Der5er Posted December 20, 2004 Share Posted December 20, 2004 Clarkson on the Outback: [url="http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12529-1101648_1,00.html"]http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12529-1101648_1,00.html[/url]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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