Xm Delphi Installation??

[Driver72]

It mostly depends on what you like to listen to, but my personal experience has been that Sirius has better reliability due to the fact that they seem to have more repeaters and they have more satellites than XM. Of course, coverage might vary depending on where you are in the US, but XM seems to cut out a lot more here.

 

 

It cuts out a lot here in LA too.

I could be driving down a freeway at 75 mph and drive under an 20 foot wide underpass that's 100 feet in the air, and XM will cut out.

I could pull up alongside a 20 foot wall and XM would cut out, even if the sky is blue and the antenna has a direct shot to the sky.

Another fall out of XM, you are right, Sirius is better that way too.

[Driver72]

 

BTW O&A do rule. How many Howie fans would actually pay money to listen to him and buy the little doggie company hardware?

 

 

this comment is kinda funny.

 

Howard Stern is the largest and most listen too radio personality.

Ask E network how much broadcasting Howard help them.

 

Your comment is also like asking, "how many boxing fans would actually pay to see a boxing match" LOL Get a clue.

 

Also, know what's REALLY funny about your comment?

Howard Stern will come free to any subscriber of Sirius...no additional charge.

 

Your Opie and Anthony...who are they again?, and how many people listen to them? Well, their "fans" have to PAY an ADDITIONAL $2 a month to listen to them. So the question you should be asking yourself is this:

 

Would "fans" of a couple virtually unknown DJ's pay ADDITIONAL to listen to them, or would people rather listen to the most listened to radio disc jockey in the country for NO additional charge on a service that's superior in every respect?

Oh and did I mention Howard gets approximately 12 million listeners EVERY DAY. Analyst expect that 1/4 (or 3 million people) will follow him to Sirius radio in THE FIRST YEAR of his broadcast!!

Oh, and how easy do you think it would be for opium and ant to get nearly anybody to come onto their radio show? Yeah.

 

This is like Ford vs. Chevy

But with satellite radio it's CLEAR whose the better choice. You just chose wrong and can't admit it. I sampled XM for 10 months, and now KNOW which is the better of the two.

 

It's not too late for you to cancel XM and get with the real program.

Oh, and Sirius's Plug and Play recievers are cheaper too.

 

Have a nice night.

[anotherbrian]

I got a SkiFi2 for Christmas and took it on a 1500 mile road trip this last week. I'm interested in neither O&A or Stern, nor do I care which station has the most channels. If you actually listen to all 120 channels, good for you, however I don't think most people care.

 

I've spent a lot of time in Avis rentals with XM radios and that is what swayed me to XM. Maybe Sirius is better, but it's probably just the same (I'm happy with a half dozen stations, CNBC being one of them -- and investor interest in stocks is frequently driven by share price, so greater volume shouldn't be surprising).

 

At $150 for the radio + car equipment, and $10/month, I'm happy to take a chance on XM. Considering the infancy of the companies, I wouldn't bet a wad on a lifetime subscription though.

 

The price wars of wireless and broadband providers are probably a pretty good example of what satellite radio will be down the road ... cheap equipment (i.e. portable receivers) in trade for a contract. At the end of the contract your equipment is likely out of date and its just a matter of picking the provider you want for the next year.

[akm3]

You are wrong.

If the reciever you buy breaks or you want to upgrade, you just need to fax or email Sirius a copy of the new reciever and they transfer your lifetime service to that reciever...no charge!

 

You should of looked into Sirius first.

 

OK, I looked into Sirius...

 

I suggest you look at section 5, heading "C", item #5 from the the Sirius terms and conditions:

 

4. Transfer Fee: If you wish to transfer your Subscription to a different Sirius Receiver during the term of a prepaid subscription or committed subscription period, we may charge you a transfer fee of up to $75.00. You may not transfer a lifetime Subscription to a different Sirius Receiver.

 

If you want to look yourself, it is at:

http://www.sirius.com/serviceterms

(/edited to include a direct link rather then a cached URL)

You seem to be correct that if it breaks *WITHIN THE WARRANTY* period, you can transfer to a new one.

 

I also assume, in the interest of customer service, if your receiver was lost after like, three months, they would probably let you transfer it so you wouldn't bad mouth them. Heck, they might even go easy on it right now and let you transfer all you want. HOWEVER, according to their actual policy, they don't have to.

 

Sorry if you understood it differently or feel you were misled by Sirius.

 

-Allen

[mmanus88]

hooked4life when i saw your comment about stock price i almost laughed out loud. as driver72 stated, you clearly have no knowledge of the stock market and actions that companys can take to lower their prices (stock splits) and things of that nature. anyways, i have listened to XM, and saw their channel selection at the 2004 NYC Auto Show. i was reading out loud "what the... christian music?" and made other negative comments about XM. the women who was working the XM booth even said "yes i will admit they don't have many music channels." she didn't say SIRIUS, but she did reinforce the fact that XM's programming is not as good as it should be. and this could also be subjective. if ur really stingy about the money, i guess ur not gonna pay $13 a month for sirius. then again, in my situation, i have a relative who has sirius and i can get the service for $6 a month. i don't care for either O&A (who the hell are they anyways) or Howard Stern (no doubt i know him), but IMO sirius has a clear cut edge in music selection that i am interested in.

[akm3]

Opie & Anthony mean nothing ot me either, and I'm an XM person. I just don't think they are that big a deal, but I've never really listened to them either. However Howard Stern?! Why would you listen to howard stern? WATCH the E! broadcast, sure, but what do you gain from listening?

 

I would feel like I'm missing the point of the show to only be listening...

 

-Allen

[Driver72]

The E broadcast is only a small portion of his show, and is ALWAYS the part

where people take their clothes off. Of course you want to see that.

But the E broadcast isn't 4 hours long like the normal morning show.

 

People who say Howard only talks about strippers and porn stars are the people

who only watch the E broadcast. He talks about A LOT more things and often

you are laughing with him in the process.

You just can't be an uptight Repulican otherwise you'll be offended by the majority

of his talk and jokes.

He is the ORIGINAL "shock" jocks. The one MANY (including I suspect the unknown Opium and Anteater) find themselves following and trying to emulate to many degrees.

 

Like the other Sat Rad thread. I'm done with these discussions. It's clear to ME and anyone who'se really interested in Sat Rad that Sirius is superior.

They also just made a contractual agreement with Microsoft to broadcast 2 or 3 channels of children's television programming for DVD based auto televisions that you see in headrests and flip down monitors.

This will be a HUGE draw for people with kids, and people who are tired of listening to

their kids repeated playing of the SAME DVD's over and over and over in the car.

This video service will also expand to PC's and other portable devices.

XM has no current plans or contracts with anyone for such a service.

 

Sirius may be #2 in size now (mostly because they started about 1.5 years later than XM, which had GM to thank for 1 million of their earliest subscribers) but Sirius is CLEARLY the Sat Rad to have now, and especially in the coming years!!

 

Later

[akm3]

Wait you can't go yet, after being so uptight about "Advantage: XM" in the pricing structure (even pushing the point of rude) you can't just leave without conceding that in fact XM is the less expensive solution

 

I'm not arguing who has the better programming, sound quality, reliability, etc, etc, etc (Haven't heard sirius, don't know). BUT *you* made the assertation ...

 

Oh I'm just being a jerk now I apologize

 

We BOTH can agree that XM/Sirius are both far beyond AM, far beyond FM and that Sat. Radio is the wave of the future. No need to turn it into a PC/Mac argument.

 

Listening to Cinemagic Ahhhh what a great station. ACK! I just assumed that Sirius cloned all of XM's stations but they dont' seem to have a movie soundtrack station. That is my favorite station and is very work safe (I listen 10 hours a day at work). It's cool to be pro-Sirius or whatever but at least be honest about the strengths and weaknesses of each. There is no one "right" answer.

 

-Allen

 

P.S. You were right about my perception of Howard Stern Driver72 I didn't know there was more to his show then the stripper parts!

 

P.P.S. So about the lifetime, have you actually had it transferred and they have been cool and let you, or are they (hopefully not) actually enforcing their no transfer rule?

[mmanus88]

oh please we all know macs are shit

 

anyways apple's market should be in trying to preserve the ipod dynasty

[akm3]

Anyway, back to the original topic. Has anyone else put a Delphi in a Legacy?

[anotherbrian]

Anyway, back to the original topic. Has anyone else put a Delphi in a Legacy?

Does Delphi == SkyFi1 or SkyFi2?

 

I have a SkyFi2 that I'm planning on permanently installing -- I've pulled the back of the headliner down enough to see how I'll route the antenna cable (down D pillar). Going down the D pillar seems to be the safest, since it avoids putting wiring near the side curtain airbags.

 

The built-in FM broadcasting of the SkyFi2 + the new SkyFi2 car kit sounds very good, and except for having to change channels occasionally, don't see a need (yet) to connect directly to the antenna or the CD/AUX hack.

 

I'm going to use the car kit's ball-mount and find a way to attach it to the _inside_ of the cubby hole in the dash. The idea is to open the cubby, then quickly attach the mount, then insert the radio in the cradle. I'd prefer to hide the radio entirely, but it won't fit in the cubby as is. When parked I'll put the XM radio in the center console, and detach the mount and leave it in the closed cubby.

[dustinw]

I previously owned a SkyFi, the just bought a SkyFi2.

 

I bought the new carkit with the SkyFi2 (I had original SkyFi car kit too).

 

I used the vent attachment parts that were in the new carkit and hooked it to the right center dash vent, then just plugged in the cig lighter adapter and used the FM modulator. It's an ok solution, would like to go with something hardwired though.

[phuzaxeman]

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6761

 

check the new xm radio pics!!!

[Driver72]

Geez, that thing is gigantic, should of gone Sirius. After comparing the two there is no comparison.

[Hooked4Life]

Sirius hardware has been mistaken for fish finders. Yeah thats on the cutting edge!

[Driver72]

Do a search. Sirius has released new hardware in the recent past. Ther plug and play units are better and smaller than XM's.

 

They have things that XM doesn't even offer (like a trunk mounted reciever that

can wire into ANY current stereo in ANY car, making it a Sat Rad.

Does XM have this? Sorry, nope. And they have MANY others.

H3ll they made it so you can wire into XM headunits too, so people who've bought XM radios, but have finally seen the light and want to switch to the better Sat Rad...Sirius, now can without buying a whole new stereo head unit!

 

And once again, if you are a sports fan and listen to a lot of sports...well the only ones you'd really want to listen to anyway would be football, basketball and hockey. All the rest are too boring to listen to. And of course, Sirius has all the contracts with the exciting sports. Sirius has updated their Sportster, so it's TiVo like and can be paused and it will record up to 44 minutes for you.

 

So say you are listening to the game and it's the last 2 minutes, and your cell phone rings. You can pause the radio, pick up the phone answer and talk and then when you are done, hit play and the game will continue where you left off. You didn't miss a second of the action.

Does XM have this? Nope.

 

LOL Keep trying to make XM look better Hooked, it's like fighting a losing battle, it just ISN'T the case. But seriously you need to get with the times because once again, you are running behind.

[phuzaxeman]

no offense, but who the hell cares if xm or sirius is better. i enjoy my xm and that's all that matters. it was a gift. one of the things i've noticed in these forums is that we got al lot of b#$ches in these forums that can't wait to complain.

[anotherbrian]

They have things that XM doesn't even offer (like a trunk mounted reciever that

can wire into ANY current stereo in ANY car, making it a Sat Rad.

Does XM have this? Sorry, nope.

Isn't that the point of the XM Commander system?

 

Sirius has updated their Sportster, so it's TiVo like and can be paused and it will record up to 44 minutes for you.

 

So say you are listening to the game and it's the last 2 minutes, and your cell phone rings. You can pause the radio, pick up the phone answer and talk and then when you are done, hit play and the game will continue where you left off. You didn't miss a second of the action.

Does XM have this? Nope.

The XM radio pictured in the other thread (SkyFi2) does have a 30-minute playback ability.

 

Do you have _ANY_ clue about XM, or are you just a Sirius zealot (and do you even subscribe to Sirius)? If you actually knew something about the available XM hardware and features I'd pay attention to your comments, but it's clear now that'd be a waste of time.

[phuzaxeman]

http://sev.prnewswire.com/radio/20041111/DCW00810112004-1.html

 

oh yeah, don't get xm radio...listen to driver72 because he knows all about the specs on the new award winning skyfi2. you really need to do some research before you open your forum mouth. go support sirius, that's cool, but please learn the specs before you blog. remember dude, this is a subaru forum to help each other out.

[emlevins]

Driver72 - the XM Commander unit is much smaller than the Delphi unit and fits with ease in the LGT center dash compartment. I am not familiar with ALL Sirius units but the XM Commander is as small or smaller than the ones I have seen. And, I don't find listening to MLB boring and I would think there are many here who would agree. And as you know, XM has MLB.

[Hooked4Life]

I totally agree.. If you want to bash another company because you think Sirius is superiour then do it on a non Subaru forum. You can piss in the wind all you want, everyone who knows the facts can decide on their own.

 

lets get back to the topic here.

[akm3]

Geez, that thing is gigantic, should of gone Sirius. After comparing the two there is no comparison.

 

=D Don't get me started again!!!!!!

[akm3]

Do a search. Sirius has released new hardware in the recent past. Ther plug and play units are better and smaller than XM's.

 

They have things that XM doesn't even offer (like a trunk mounted reciever that

can wire into ANY current stereo in ANY car, making it a Sat Rad.

Does XM have this? Sorry, nope. And they have MANY others.

H3ll they made it so you can wire into XM headunits too, so people who've bought XM radios, but have finally seen the light and want to switch to the better Sat Rad...Sirius, now can without buying a whole new stereo head unit!

 

And once again, if you are a sports fan and listen to a lot of sports...well the only ones you'd really want to listen to anyway would be football, basketball and hockey. All the rest are too boring to listen to. And of course, Sirius has all the contracts with the exciting sports. Sirius has updated their Sportster, so it's TiVo like and can be paused and it will record up to 44 minutes for you.

 

So say you are listening to the game and it's the last 2 minutes, and your cell phone rings. You can pause the radio, pick up the phone answer and talk and then when you are done, hit play and the game will continue where you left off. You didn't miss a second of the action.

Does XM have this? Nope.

 

LOL Keep trying to make XM look better Hooked, it's like fighting a losing battle, it just ISN'T the case. But seriously you need to get with the times because once again, you are running behind.

 

Your on crack, XM has XMDirect units so you can wire XM into any headunit.

 

Delphi Skyfi II has has PVR functions to pause and rewind audio.

 

Seriously I don't mind that you prefer Sirius but GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT so you are telling the truth so people can decide for themselves.

 

P.S. You never answered my question about if you have actually transferred lifetime service between units and they let you, in violation of their policy...I'm genuinely curious to see if they enforce that policy or not.

 

-Allen

[c-lo]

Glad to see everyone is so passionate about XM and Sirius. LIke most things in this world, it's nice to have options. Ask yourself this: Why did you buy your Legacy? why didn't you buy an Audi, VW, or Volvo with AWD? For those same reasons that is why some of bought XM and others bought Sirius. I could care less about why you bought your XM or your Sirius. XM was a gift for me and I like their selection of music. Could it be better, maybe; but I CHOSE to keep XM radio because I liked it.

[akm3]

Still haven't answered my question Driver72...

 

-Allen