Mike1657615087 Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 i have made a map that i need feed back on it is essentially a Cobb stage1 map i have adjusted the throttle mapping for I S S# please download and try it and let me know what you think email results to : info at tdctuning dot com Thank you -mike Spec B: http://www.tdctuning.com/upped/TEST Stage1 SB ACN91.ptm MT: http://www.tdctuning.com/upped/08 LGT TEST Stage1 ACN91.ptm 07 Spec B: http://www.tdctuning.com/upped/07 SB TEST Stage1 ACN91 MT.ptm MT: http://www.tdctuning.com/upped/07 TEST Stage1 ACN91 MT.ptm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1657615087 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 Anyone? i see this has been downloaded a few times please email us with the results! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 Downloaded. As soon as the ap arrives, I'll give you some feedback on the map, thanks! Do you have any more info. on the map and the si drive integration, in comparison to Cobb's stage 1? Is the throttle mapping just more aggresive or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimm Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 I am curious what you did as well. I have been thinking it would be nice to reprogram the S# setting to be a direct relationship (i.e. where my foot is is where the throttle is) and the S mode to be more like the stock S# setting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1657615087 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 I am curious what you did as well. I have been thinking it would be nice to reprogram the S# setting to be a direct relationship (i.e. where my foot is is where the throttle is) and the S mode to be more like the stock S# setting. Kinda like this :-p you will notice right away i hope this should be the most "cable like" mapping to date since you can change it around it allows me to test several styles of mapping @ once Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGT Dave Posted December 28, 2007 Share Posted December 28, 2007 I am curious what you did as well. I have been thinking it would be nice to reprogram the S# setting to be a direct relationship (i.e. where my foot is is where the throttle is) and the S mode to be more like the stock S# setting. So you want to switch the functions of the S and S# modes? Can I ask why exactly? The stock S mode functions just how you said you'd like the S# to be (your foot is where the throttle is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1657615087 Posted December 28, 2007 Author Share Posted December 28, 2007 BUMP for the 07 guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimm Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 So you want to switch the functions of the S and S# modes? Can I ask why exactly? The stock S mode functions just how you said you'd like the S# to be (your foot is where the throttle is). So if the S mode is a direct map then what is S#? From what I understand S mode is not a direct map. If you look at the curve of the S mode the throttle response is variable compared to the peddal movement. The S# mode has a more linear response but still has some lag. I want a map that will put the throttle at the same location as my foot so I don't need to compensate for the map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aperfectlegacy Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 no a/t love? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGT Dave Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 So if the S mode is a direct map then what is S#? From what I understand S mode is not a direct map. If you look at the curve of the S mode the throttle response is variable compared to the peddal movement. The S# mode has a more linear response but still has some lag. I want a map that will put the throttle at the same location as my foot so I don't need to compensate for the map. Here are the basic differences between the three modes: I-Mode: When the gas pedal is all the way down, the throttle is open 40% S-Mode: When the gas pedal is all the way down, the throttle is open 100% S#-Mode: When the gas pedal is about 50-60% down, the throttle is open 100% (98% actually, see the link below) and stays that way no matter how much more you push the pedal down. More info in this thread: http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46379 The S-Mode is actually most like what you are describing - it is the most linear mode in relation to where your foot is. The S# just has a quicker response because you don't have to move your foot as far to get the most power out of the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGT Dave Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 And now to get back on topic, I'll try this map after I install the OTS Cobb map for about a week so I can compare back to back. I can't wait to get my AP next week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edkwon Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 How does one copy new maps from the computer to the AP, when you plug in your AP unit, does it show up like an external drive via USB connection, and do you drag and drop the map file into the appropriate directory? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGT Dave Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I "think" the AP also comes with a software cd that has a program for managing all the maps on the AP and your computer and takes care of copying them back and forth when you need to. Edit: Wait, didn't you get yours already? Was there a CD with some software in the package too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1657615087 Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 http://www.accessecu.com/support/installAP-1.1.3.3.exe :-p you are welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edkwon Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Edit: Wait, didn't you get yours already? Was there a CD with some software in the package too? Yeah, i have mine and it came with the software CD, but i haven't tried to manage maps on the AP unit yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1657615087 Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 Yeah, i have mine and it came with the software CD, but i haven't tried to manage maps on the AP unit yet.Ed, please PM me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zimm Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Here are the basic differences between the three modes: I-Mode: When the gas pedal is all the way down, the throttle is open 40% S-Mode: When the gas pedal is all the way down, the throttle is open 100% S#-Mode: When the gas pedal is about 50-60% down, the throttle is open 100% (98% actually, see the link below) and stays that way no matter how much more you push the pedal down. More info in this thread: http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46379 The S-Mode is actually most like what you are describing - it is the most linear mode in relation to where your foot is. The S# just has a quicker response because you don't have to move your foot as far to get the most power out of the engine. You sure about that? So in S# the car goes to WOT at about 50-60%? So I can floor it is S# and the throttle won't close until I let off around half the peddal travel? That doesn't seem right but I am no expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1657615087 Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 You sure about that? So in S# the car goes to WOT at about 50-60%? So I can floor it is S# and the throttle won't close until I let off around half the peddal travel? That doesn't seem right but I am no expert. I will try to explain a bit the throttle on the 07+ is all based on desired TQ the mapping we are developing should speed up the throttle response and feel quite a bit i dont see anything to support that statement above but i will take a look into it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGT Dave Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 You sure about that? So in S# the car goes to WOT at about 50-60%? So I can floor it is S# and the throttle won't close until I let off around half the peddal travel? That doesn't seem right but I am no expert. Yes, here is Subaru's explanation: http://www.subarudrive.com/Summer07_whatmakes.htm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGT Dave Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 I will try to explain a bit the throttle on the 07+ is all based on desired TQ the mapping we are developing should speed up the throttle response and feel quite a bit i dont see anything to support that statement above but i will take a look into it Hi Mike, I have some questions for you now that you're able to alter the maps. Are you able to change settings for each of the 3 modes independently, or do the changes you make affect all settings equally? Are you able to make entirely new maps for each setting, or are there only certain things you can adjust within each? I'm just curious exactly how much the SI-Drive is able to control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2005garnetGT Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 all he can adjust are the throttle maps, it may be possible in the future to change other maps as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infamous1 Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 ^^^ Yep all SI drive does is change the throttle maps, however Cobb is working on changing this down the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1657615087 Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 Hi Mike, I have some questions for you now that you're able to alter the maps. Are you able to change settings for each of the 3 modes independently, or do the changes you make affect all settings equally? Are you able to make entirely new maps for each setting, or are there only certain things you can adjust within each? I'm just curious exactly how much the SI-Drive is able to control.For now its the TPS mapping in the future it will be all the mapping (3 maps on one setup) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1657615087 Posted December 29, 2007 Author Share Posted December 29, 2007 yay TPS here is some of the test mapping there is more behind this but lets see how it works http://www.tdctuning.com/upped/tps.GIF http://www.http//tdctuning.com/upped/tps.PNG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edkwon Posted December 29, 2007 Share Posted December 29, 2007 Flashing to my OTS stg II map, the throttle response really jumps in S# mode compared to stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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