gtguy Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 I'm wondering if it's the same corporate STi short shifter that I presently have in my WRX. By itself, the short shifter is a nice mod. With Cusco bushings and the Gp. N transmission mounts, it's a really nice mod. I just don't think it will fit my purposes as regards the Legacy. It just won't be that kind of car for me. As far as the function, throws are about 30% shorter. You don't notice really until you row a non-shorty WRX. Effort is good, as is lever height. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 I'm not talking about being that agressive Kevin, I just think Gandolf shoud keep his staff and I like a bit more definition with shifts than the rubbery bushings it comes with normally. I have a GroupN tranny mount sitting in my toolbox, but I'm not installing it in that car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Yeah but I'm sure the short shift with it's less than enthusiast level bushings is still better than the long throw shifter that comes stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Guess I should sit in mine and one of our other Subarus to compare. :P I don't think there's a significant difference, but I can always try to check. I know my Cobb shifter was significantly shorter and Mick's shifter in his MY00 Impreza L I got a shot to drive last weekend for a little bit really was a LOT shorter. I wasn't quite so impressed with the ultra-shortness, but I think what I had with the Cobb shifter was really nice, tall enough to keep my arm parallel to the axis of the car, but with nicely shorter throws. It's nice. Hmm, maybe I'll need some new bushings and go that route again. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerdave Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Thanks for the feedback. Hmm... still not sure if it's worth the $200-300 bucks for it from the factory... well, I guess to see how the stock lever throws are... like I said in another post... I just want to drive one! :twisted: :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Just remember that short shifters don't in fact help you shift any more rapidly. They are simply a feel mod. As I said, I won't be putting one on the Legacy. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Kevin, I know that. Shifting too much faster with these tranny isn't a good thing anyways, have to let the synchros do their job to an extent. It just makes it more comfortable and feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Zevil Posted April 17, 2004 Author Share Posted April 17, 2004 [quote name='SUBE555']Kevin, I know that. Shifting too much faster with these tranny isn't a good thing anyways, have to let the synchros do their job to an extent. It just makes it more comfortable and feel better.[/quote] This is true, annoying and unfortunate but true. I feel like I am babying my tranny when I drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 [quote name='SUBE555']I'm not talking about being that agressive Kevin, I just think Gandolf shoud keep his staff[/quote] I would urge caution in letting misguided bon mots from NASIOC corrupt this space. I sat in a Legacy and rowed the shifter. It felt fine to me, and a bit shorter than the stock WRX's throw. Lever height was fine, as well. People over there are into slagging things they have no information on or experience with. We are and should be above that. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 I thought the Legacy 5mt felt fine as well. It's not magic like an S2000 shifter but shouldn't be expected to be either. The short throw is probably not necessary but I would still get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 [quote name='gtguy'][quote name='SUBE555']I'm not talking about being that agressive Kevin, I just think Gandolf shoud keep his staff[/quote] I would urge caution in letting misguided bon mots from NASIOC corrupt this space. I sat in a Legacy and rowed the shifter. It felt fine to me, and a bit shorter than the stock WRX's throw. Lever height was fine, as well. People over there are into slagging things they have no information on or experience with. We are and should be above that. Kevin[/quote] Kevin, I was just trying to make a funny. I like a bit shorter height shift lever (though I think mine was still adjusted higher than the Kartboy unit) for comfort mostly. It might be fine up there, it's just not my preference. Okay! Chill out man. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 I'm quite chilled, Sube. Always am. But I am also quite conscious of the differences between NASIOC and here. Hopefully those differences won't dwindle away into similarities as the membership increases. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerdave Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Well, I'll probably bag the idea of the shift kit... it can always be retrofitted later if it's *that* bad. (which it probably isn't) Was there a trailer hitch option? I see it can tow 2700, but I didn't see the factory hitch option (like the WRX)... did anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 [quote name='racerdave']Well, I'll probably bag the idea of the shift kit... it can always be retrofitted later if it's *that* bad. (which it probably isn't) Was there a trailer hitch option? I see it can tow 2700, but I didn't see the factory hitch option (like the WRX)... did anyone else?[/quote] Nope didn't see it, but all I care is that the car can haul ass. :D -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Here's what it says on the Cars101 web page. [i]not available or factory/port installed: Trailer Hitch Tire pressure monitoring[/i] Does that mean it's going to be a dealer installed option? I'm not sure because the options listed are factory/port installed options. It would be kind of cool to be able to tow the snowmobiles up north with the Legacy. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerdave Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Oh... well, it would be nice for a hitch option, just like the WRX. Hopefully it will be coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sub-attraction Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 I'd like to have the hitch for the bike rack attachment. I personally don't want to be throwing a muddy Mtn bike up top a $30k vehicle. EDIT: Found what looks to be an impressive hitch mounted bike rack. The folks on MTB review gave it high marks as well. [url]http://www.1upusa.com/1upusarackhome.htm[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 [quote name='Sub-attraction']I'd like to have the hitch for the bike rack attachment. I personally don't want to be throwing a muddy Mtn bike up top a $30k vehicle.[/quote] How about throwing it in the back? The extra space is a definate advantage of the wagon over the sedan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 I'm not sure I'd want to throw a muddy one inside or on top either. Hmm, the hitch idea is interesting and will have to be looked into further. I know there have been some decent bike racks out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallguylehigh Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 I am beginning to winder whether or not the Legacy GT will have the dual zone climate control or not. I am extremely pleased that the standard GT has heated seats and a 6-disc changer, but in my opnion, the dual zone climate would be a huge bonus. It seems to make sense, on cars101.com, the dual zone is standard on the 2.5 LTD, and the 2.5 GT LTD, but on the options break down, it doesnt show dual zone climate as an added option from the GT to the GT LTD. So will the base GT have the dual zone climate? I have convinced myself that the power seats, leather and sunroof arent worth the extra $2700, but if they threw dual zone climate in there, it might be the straw that broke the camels back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ha-evolution Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Legacy GT does have dual zone climate control in both models. Subaru news site has a specs at a glance pdf that specifies this. [url=http://vocuspr.vocus.com/VocusPR30/Temp/{b273efcf-c330-43fd-b383-c5bdb29fb067}/Legacy%202005%20At%20A%20Glance.pdf]Legacy GT Specs at a glance[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallguylehigh Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 [quote name='ha-evolution']Legacy GT does have dual zone climate control in both models. Subaru news site has a specs at a glance pdf that specifies this. [url=http://vocuspr.vocus.com/VocusPR30/Temp/{b273efcf-c330-43fd-b383-c5bdb29fb067}/Legacy%202005%20At%20A%20Glance.pdf]Legacy GT Specs at a glance[/url][/quote] Awesome, thanks for the help. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kage Posted April 19, 2004 Share Posted April 19, 2004 Does anyone have pics of the optional Momo shift knob? I like the looks of the stock knob actually, and I'm wondering whether the Momo will be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CombatCQB Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 I'm curious about the momo knob too. But I think in the end, I'll go with the stock knob and find another momo knob with matching pedals. I've also been thinking about what xenon options will be available. If none from SOA, will a simple D2S and ballast upgrade work on the stock projectors? Or will the projector lens have to change too if I want bi-xenons? I know if I upgrade it myself, I won't go with JDM parts, get some parts from HIDTech so the cutoffs are correct. Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted April 21, 2004 Share Posted April 21, 2004 Reports are that the JDM Xenons are less-than-impressive. Further, we don't know how good the stock halogens are yet. In light of the illegality of aftermarket HID systems, that's not a mod I would be making. If you need that much light, swap the fogs for some Hella driving lights that come on with the brights, and dark roads get turned into day. :lol: Good projector halogen systems reduce the longing for HIDs to a craving for fashion, IMHO. And that's fine, just as long as we understand what it is. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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