Prime Power Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Just curious if anyone know much about it. I would really like to find the material and cut to fit myself to save some cash. Anyone? Here is a link: http://www.1tail.com/sa/p/Cool-Cover_TM_Air-Tube_Cover_Kit(36_long_x_14_wide).htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirsimon Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Doesn't Michael Jackson have some pants made of that stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacysteve68 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 or at least 1 glove? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frathouse87 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 Sounds as unbelievable as the intake tornado! Just pop it in and save hundreds of miles per gallon! Zac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxerGT2.5 Posted March 27, 2007 Share Posted March 27, 2007 36in long....for those with the 3ft CAI. OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Power Posted March 27, 2007 Author Share Posted March 27, 2007 Sounds as unbelievable as the intake tornado! Just pop it in and save hundreds of miles per gallon! Zac I don't get the correlation. The tornado is an air restriction more so, and is obviously snake oil. This just states it cools the air, which it should, and of course then provides a benefit. I would like to know how much it cools the air though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frathouse87 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 The correlation is that they both seem bogus. I do not see a sheet of metal being able to make any difference to the intake air temperature. If it was to keep the air cool in the INTAKE MANIFOLD...AFTER...the throttle body where heat soak can occur, then I would be sold. But the air moves so fast through the CAI piping that I do not see how any gain can be made. Point made Zac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Power Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 That is more of an answer I was seeking. So then how do people say the STP intake gets too hot therfore doing more damage then good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyd2005 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Short ram intakes (including the SPT) actually suck hot air from the engine compartment. They are not cold air intakes. The optional little heat shield does help a little bit. The stock intake sucks air from in front of the car. There's a scoop that goes over the radiator. When I datalog my car, the intake air temperature is highest when the car is idling. As the car speeds up, the intake air temperature actually drops and starts to approach outside ambient temperature. VTGT just posted a datalog and you can see his IAT drops as his car starts moving. If you look at datalogs of stock intake box versus any short ram intake, the IAT at high speed is always higher with the short ram intakes. Another problem with the SPT is that it is metallic and will get hot from being in the engine compartment. Try driving hard and then pull over, pop open the trunk and touch it. You have the SPT. Just go try those experiments. Datalog and then touch the intake pipe after a couple of WOT runs and tell us if it's hot or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Power Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 Great, that is my point, I have done logs and my car is faster with the spt. However you are right that the intake gets hot, so would this thing help that problem? I would assume so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyd2005 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 This thing will obviously not help the stock intake but I believe some people with metal intakes use it. Short rams still have a problem in that they're sucking air from the engine compartment instead of outside the car. Have you logged your IAT (intake air temperature) and compared to ambient? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frathouse87 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 I believe that thing would help for a few minutes, then the heat shield would just get hott passing it to the intake pipe... All in all I truely believe Subaru didn't skimp when they considered there intake design, a good drop-in filter will do the trick to give it some very good potential. Zac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Power Posted March 28, 2007 Author Share Posted March 28, 2007 I have the SPT intake, and am happy over stock, but it does get hot. I just ordered that thing, one reason is that it is long enough to go on both my vehicles. But I will see. If I get time, I will do some logs with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirsimon Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 ^ That would be interesting to see. I am thinking about just getting a panel filter, but would like to see the results of your (further) testing. Though I don't know if I am keen on the look of the that apparatus has (the heat shielding device pictured above). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diamondgraymetallic21 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Try driving hard and then pull over, pop open the trunk and touch it. But if your intake was mounted in the trunk, shouldn't it be nice and cool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyd2005 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 Damn. Brainfart FTW!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickeyd2005 Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 OP, since you've gone ahead and ordered it. It would be nice to seem some before and after comparison IAT logs done at cruising and at WOT. This would confirm if it works. IMHO, it won't work because the intake air is already hot at the cone filter. However, if your SPT heat shield is adequately isolating the cone filter and allowing the intake to suck cooler air then a steady state heat transfer might show that the intake air is actually cooler with the added insulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted March 28, 2007 Share Posted March 28, 2007 All you are ordering is a piece of fiberglass insulation with aluminum foil on one side. You can pick that stuff up at hardware stores or through McMaster Carr. All that is doing is insulating the tube from heat soak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Power Posted March 29, 2007 Author Share Posted March 29, 2007 I know that is all it is doing, and that is what I want. I did not know I could pick it up somewhere though, and have looked. Wish I knew where earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Power Posted March 31, 2007 Author Share Posted March 31, 2007 Well put it on. Doesn't look the greatest on the Subaru due to the mass air flow sensor. Also the curve doesn't help. But I did some before and after runs. Before I had 15 degree hotter on the intake temp then what the car read outside. My computer said the difference between ambient and intake temp was +5 though. After I had 10 degree difference between intake temp and the cars reading and dead even on ambient to intake. So I am definitely happy. Didn't do any runs with the truck. I also closed off the seal between the intake and the engine alot more with a pipe wrap that is sticky on one side, heat resistant foil on the other. Over all, doesn't look as sharp, but has cooler intake temps, and I can always take it off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirsimon Posted April 1, 2007 Share Posted April 1, 2007 Thanks for posting back - since you have seen a measurable reduction in temps, do you plan on keeping it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prime Power Posted April 1, 2007 Author Share Posted April 1, 2007 I will definitely keep it on. At least I can take it off for show. I've been busy, just added a second battery to my truck too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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