JayH Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Alright, I have a 2002 Legacy GT Limited Sedan, and would like to see what this car can do with some mods. Where do I start? I have read several threads about AP and think this is popbably what I want to go with. Is Cobb the company to go with, do they make an AP for the '02 Legacy? The tires I am running with right now are Goodyear tripletreads size 205/55/HR16, I am not really interested in handling performance as long as I can stay safe on these. I don't think the AP can give enough power to be dangerous, I drive like a granny anyway (maybe not after I get some mods). What are the potential risks to the car with AP? My car is a an everyday driver and I can't afford to blow the engine. Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b4wantab Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hey, congrates on the ride. No one is currently making a AP for the 00-04 BE/BHs. It doesn't look like anyone will. You can send your ECM out for a reflash to Ispeed, I believe they are the only ones doing it. There are some piggy-back options, perfect power, emanage, Hydra, etc. Probably need to do a search, too much to list here. You can get good some OK power from exhaust changes. I had a set of Triple threads and they were very good tires. Peace, Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imstillatwork Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Cobb is THE company that makes the AccessPORT (AP) Any other company's ecu flash or piggyback, etc... and it's not an AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psucaptainkickass Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 But the point is the AP is only for 05+ LGTs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabydanimal Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I am amazed at the lack of flaming here. Way to go guys! Welcome to the boards JayH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 With the 2.5NA, unless you want to start spending silly money on heads etc. then the best you can do is intake and exhaust, that should get you up to around 180 hp. There is the option of chips, but I don't know how succesful they are. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Alright, I have a 2002 Legacy GT Limited Sedan, and would like to see what this car can do with some mods. Where do I start? I have read several threads about AP and think this is popbably what I want to go with. Is Cobb the company to go with, do they make an AP for the '02 Legacy? The tires I am running with right now are Goodyear tripletreads size 205/55/HR16, I am not really interested in handling performance as long as I can stay safe on these. I don't think the AP can give enough power to be dangerous, I drive like a granny anyway (maybe not after I get some mods). What are the potential risks to the car with AP? My car is a an everyday driver and I can't afford to blow the engine. Thanks!! First, you drive down to your local Subie dealer, Next you trade the '02 in on an '07 GT,... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayH Posted March 22, 2007 Author Share Posted March 22, 2007 First, you drive down to your local Subie dealer, Next you trade the '02 in on an '07 GT,... Yeah, won't be able to do that for a bit yet. Besides, I like my '02 even if it is a bit wimpy. Guess I'll have to stick to modding my truck. Thanks for being easy on me guys, I know I must have sounded stupid asking for an AP for my '02. Wishful thinking I guess. Thanks for the input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieDriver Posted March 22, 2007 Share Posted March 22, 2007 Yeah, won't be able to do that for a bit yet. Besides, I like my '02 even if it is a bit wimpy. Guess I'll have to stick to modding my truck. Thanks for being easy on me guys, I know I must have sounded stupid asking for an AP for my '02. Wishful thinking I guess. Thanks for the input. As was said previously, ECU tunes on normally-aspirated engines don't net much gain. You have to add hardware. Power gains on a turbo are much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted March 24, 2007 Share Posted March 24, 2007 Yes, '00-'04 Legacies are pretty weak (no offense) thanks to Subaru not offering more power, but upping the weight. So while us '96-'99 LGT can get by with 165 hp, newer ones not so much. Real simple, go on ebay and find a short ram air intake. Good for 3 -5 horsepower, which is actually a bit more noticeable if you have a 5 speed MT. And it will definately make your car sound faster :-). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayH Posted March 25, 2007 Author Share Posted March 25, 2007 Thanks Slegacy, It is a 5 speed, and I looked for a ram air intake. I noticed quite a few price differences, what should a good one cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted March 25, 2007 Share Posted March 25, 2007 Thanks Slegacy, It is a 5 speed, and I looked for a ram air intake. I noticed quite a few price differences, what should a good one cost? I found a brand new Weapon R for around $70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redlegacygt Posted March 26, 2007 Share Posted March 26, 2007 headers and exhaust along with a lightweight pulley is a good setup as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayH Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 Okay, I have a question. Why would a different intake be better than the stock setup that is already drawing air right from the front of the car? Correct my line of thinking here. I am probably going to get the Weapon-R Secret with the Ram Air intake, if you guys can explain this one to me. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayH Posted March 26, 2007 Author Share Posted March 26, 2007 http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/2/9/8/6/0/7/webimg/41297458_o.jpg Here is what mine looks like, point out the flaws for me if you would. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkitan Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 well for one, look at all the twists and turns and air boxes the air has to go through to get to the engine. Add a short ram or cold air intake (pulling from the fender) and the air get's there much faster and less restriction. That's what i think anyways so correct me if i am wrong anyone. still learning myself i got a cobb cold air intake and it added some hp, added some mpg, also sounds nicer too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted March 29, 2007 Share Posted March 29, 2007 Increased mpg is definately a plus as I found out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayH Posted March 30, 2007 Author Share Posted March 30, 2007 well for one, look at all the twists and turns and air boxes the air has to go through to get to the engine. Add a short ram or cold air intake (pulling from the fender) and the air get's there much faster and less restriction. That's what i think anyways so correct me if i am wrong anyone. still learning myself i got a cobb cold air intake and it added some hp, added some mpg, also sounds nicer too. Yeah, that was what I was thinking actually. The Ram air setups seem to be a much more direct flow. Thanks for the input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DPSubie Posted March 31, 2007 Share Posted March 31, 2007 i got a cobb cold air intake and it added some hp, added some mpg, also sounds nicer too. Where did you find a cobb intake, I have an 01 but couldn't find anything but a weapon R? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLC Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 The Cobb CAI is universal for any MAP-based car, as long as you know whether or not you have an IAT (Intake Air Temperature) sensor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkitan Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 Where did you find a cobb intake, I have an 01 but couldn't find anything but a weapon R? I got mine from Cobb's web site before they removed it. You can find it online still though. Check out SubaruParts.com. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougeben83 Posted April 13, 2007 Share Posted April 13, 2007 You can also just get an Ebay intake and buy a KN cone filter separately. I remember the same person that someone mentioned dynoing the ebay one and it got pretty good gains (read; almost as good as the cobb's) considering it was like $30 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekkitan Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 You can also just get an Ebay intake and buy a KN cone filter separately. I remember the same person that someone mentioned dynoing the ebay one and it got pretty good gains (read; almost as good as the cobb's) considering it was like $30 That's nice. Maybe some of us don't want cheap ebay crap for our cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPLGT Posted April 14, 2007 Share Posted April 14, 2007 I am amazed at the lack of flaming here. Way to go guys! Welcome to the boards JayH! This is not naisoc...hoooo ray for that..... Rehab is for quitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayH Posted April 14, 2007 Author Share Posted April 14, 2007 That's nice. Maybe some of us don't want cheap ebay crap for our cars Just cause its from ebay doesn't mean its cheap crap, pal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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