rjundi Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 The market will set the final delivered price. Remember these are suggested retail. That is why I got a 2005 LGT unlimited 5mt wagon for a bit below invoice - $1500 rebate without negotiation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian32984 Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 A turbo car seems to be more desirable because of the modding abilities, so to people who plan to mod, the spec b will probably be more appealing. Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhabodav Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Between the 2.5i and the 2.5i SE there is a 300 dollar difference.......whats the point of having the 2.5i regular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subawang Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I'm also wondering why the 3.0R is priced ~3k above the spec B. It seems that it may be engine related as even the 2.5GT Limited w/ VDC and Navi is priced $500 above the 3.0R and it does not include the better wheels/tires and suspension bits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 So basically... we have figured out for the little plaque on the back of the sepc.B, no color choice (YEAH! Grey and Grey! ), and no interior options, it will cost you $3900 more then a 3.0R. $2700 MSRP diff and then figure in the 3.0R has the $1200 5EAT in it's price already. Wow. Just wow. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaWolverine Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 May I ask why? I love that my 05 LGT has no computer controlled dynamic control system. I love how I, the driver, has 100% control over the car; not some computer system. Simplicity is bliss- It's just a value thing. You just come to expect certain things when you're buying a close to 30k car. I may not need it, maybe I will, but I think it could be know that you have it if you need it, just press a button or flip a switch or whatever it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Between the 2.5i and the 2.5i SE there is a 300 dollar difference.......whats the point of having the 2.5i regular? 2.5i = rental cars 2.5i SE = dealership cars Its also strange why they offer the 2.5i Limited with and without VDC? Just make it standard on a non-performance oriented consumer. The option for the GT makes sense as put above for people driving it for performance and don't want it maybe. No nav in the 2.5i Limited still make zero sense...hell my wife's Mazda 5 Sport came with it as an option no need for the GT version! The Spec B pricing just baffles me...but it'll help the 06&07 residual values I guess. My vB Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithAkaMrak Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Between the 2.5i and the 2.5i SE there is a 300 dollar difference.......whats the point of having the 2.5i regular? If MY2008 is like MY2007, the base 2.5i will be primarily for fleet sales, with few, if any, showing up on dealer lots. And while everyone's griping about specific model/feature combos... I want a Legacy with N/A H4, 5EAT (I'll settle for 4EAT), dark cloth interior (leather with dark cloth on the floor would be ok), cold weather pack (heated seats/wipers/mirrors), VDC, and NO moonroof. The 2.5i Limited + VDC is close, but still has that blasted moonroof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Just pull the cover forward. TA DA! No more moonroof! Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithAkaMrak Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Just pull the cover forward. TA DA! No more moonroof! I wouldn't really mind a moonroof, if it didn't cut into headroom so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I know! Just givin ya a hard time. I know for those over 6 ft this can be quite the sticking point. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WraithAkaMrak Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I know! Just givin ya a hard time. I know for those over 6 ft this can be quite the sticking point. And I'm barely over 6'... Anyway, I'm waiting for the 08s to hit dealer lots to see how they fit, though I'm guessing it's going to be exactly the same as the 07s (though of course there's no Leg wagon this time around). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I am 6'3" and moon roofs usually cause me nasty issues but the one in my wagon I have yet to hit my head and I can wear a hat! My vB Gallery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenzo Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 The 3.0R is worth less to some of us because the level of performance is less than the 2.5GT/Spec.B. I wouldn't consider buying a 3.0R at all, but would at least consider a Spec.B. (A Legacy STi would be a lock.) I'm sure the 3.0R will be a great choice for those wanting a great ride as opposed to a great drive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tantal Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 The outback XT needs three options (a package is okay; they'll be ordered together anyway): 1) Suspension that makes it a car again - preferably something close to the JDM spec B 2) A lack of baby car toy side cladding package. Call it the anti gold package or anti-off-road-poser package. LOL (No offense to those of you ACTUALLY taking your OB's offroad, its just that you are a small minority in my experience). 3) A non-barn-door nose package. Let's have a front that doesnt look like its trying to be a truck like thingy. LOL Okay I'll stop whining now - I'm still pissed that I'm going to have to spend a lot more on my next wagon . . . and it won't be an outback. But I've said my piece and will NOT threadjack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tantal Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 The 3.0R is worth less to some of us because the level of performance is less than the 2.5GT/Spec.B. I wouldn't consider buying a 3.0R at all, but would at least consider a Spec.B. (A Legacy STi would be a lock.) I'm sure the 3.0R will be a great choice for those wanting a great ride as opposed to a great drive. I think the 3.0 is a nice engine, and not everybody really wants a turbo. the 2.5 GT is already too fast, like many cars available these days, for some of its potential owners to deal with (no, this is not a commentary, just a personal opinion ). the 3.0 should be plenty fast enough, and if it was available with a manual and without the nav system (what is it with SOA and sill nav options????) then it would be an attractive option for many people shopping the A4 and 328xi. Seriously. But as it is, the spec B is the only subaru option, and honestly, at $34 K, it aint nothin' special compared to the A4 or the 328xi - sheesh, its no contest, paying the few extra K for the BMW for what that car offers you over the spec B, at least if you can stand the ugly looks of the modern 3 (I can't, obviously ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 There are few possibilities: - Spec B is even more overpriced than some of us suspected. - 3.0R is underpriced by Subaru for unknown reasons - politics - SOA priced Spec B when "premium" was battle cry. Subaru does not want to alienate customers who paid significant premium to have numbered plate so it keeps the price unreasonably high (what the heck, how many Spec Bs are sold per year - 500 more or less cars do not break SOA) but new battle cry is "value" and customer oriented so "new" Legacy 3.0R gets customer friendly price with possibility of raising it in the future. Krzys PS No VDC for GT except "have it all" Spec B is lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 ^ I agree that they didn't want to offend the spec.B owners. Trust me, you DON'T want the wrath of a spec.B owner on you. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zhabodav Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 I dont understand why everyone is making the moonroof a head issue. I am 6-1 and have no problems whatsoever with my seat in position as high as possible. In fact, when I sit inside my friends 2005 2.5i without a moonroof, I feel cramped as hell. The moonroof gives me a feeling of space. If you cant fit, use those nobs to the left to adjust your seat properly, this is almost as rediculous as people wondering why their parking lights are on without checking the button behind the steering wheel. If you fully lowered your seat and still dont fit, well then, you should be playing basketball and earning rediculous amounts of cash by standing underneath the hoop all the time. My friend is 6-7 and he has no leg room, but head space is fine. Those magical seat moving buttons are there for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 Some people just like having their seat as high as possible? I'm 6 ft and have mine as low as possible cause I like the driving feel from that position. Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon in CT Posted March 20, 2007 Author Share Posted March 20, 2007 No VDC for GT except "have it all" Spec B is lame.You can order a 2008 LGT Limited with NAV and VDC or just with VDC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NovaWolverine Posted March 20, 2007 Share Posted March 20, 2007 even w/ 5MT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krzyss Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 My bad. No GT with MT and VDC unless one buys 6MT and NAV and Bilsteins and Alcantara and Torsen - total 34640 instead of 28940 + 300. So for other models VDC is stand alone option for 300 (or standard) and for GT with MT it is 5700 "package". I do not like what I see. Krzys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Ya know, I actually laughed out loud when I saw that SOA still doesnt understand that you can have a navigation system and a manual transmission in the same car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 How did they get PZEV and SULEV II ratings? I thought they were impossible to attain unless you had a gasoline-electric hybrid powertrain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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