Trek62 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I'm not great at electrical stuff & I'm running a line to the power point under the armrest for my V1. Does anyone know how the upper portion of the center console seperates? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I'm also looking to use the cigarette outlet for my Escort 8500 X50. Need to take apart the center console also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Bates Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 Trek62, Check this thread if you haven't seen it yet. It might help. :) [url="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45084#post45084"]http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?p=45084#post45084[/url] Jim1969, How are you planning to hook it up that you need to get inside the console? Search and read previous thread for how it comes apart. It depends on which transmission you have and it's been outlined pretty well previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 It comes out as one large piece and there is only one electrical connector toward the back underneath and from there the wires go to the power outlet and seat heaters. Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 I want to splice into the cigarette outlet's power supply. Drill a hole in the holder for the ashtray, put my smartmodule in there, run my wires underneath to the splice. I just want to be sure how to remove the: armrest, cubby with heater controls and area around the shifter. Then I need to know where to attach my ground wire. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Bates Posted October 17, 2004 Share Posted October 17, 2004 From my experience (and I hope this is true for both transmission types) you can remove the boot (manual) or silver trim ring (auto) and then use an allen wrench in the slot to apply lifting pressure at the two lower corners of the piece that surrounds the shifter. I have never needed to remove the armrest section to do this but I've read that others have done it that way. Both the power and ground wires go to the back of the cigarette lighter socket. I usually like to solder my wires when I do this kind of thing. If it were me, I'd solder to the base of the terminals of the lighter socket itself. That way, you can remove the panel later without dealing with the wires again. Just unplug and it's free. (But I just remembered that there is a 6 conductor plug just a few inches away, so it's not that big of a deal.) Don't forget to pull out the bulb that lights up the ashtray while you are there! There's a fair amount of room behind the ashtray area to place extra parts. You might be able to zip tie something to the back of the ashtray if it's not too big. That way, it would be kind of modular! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 I have an auto. Unscrew the shift knob, then how did you pop up that plate? I wish you had pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Bates Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 On the auto, you don't unscrew the knob. Just gently and carefully lift the silver trim ring around the gate. Once that's out, use an allen wrench wrapped in a cloth to press from underneath at the lower corners. There's just a few pressure clips holding it on. The point of the allen wrench is to get your lifting pressure near the lower outside edges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 couldn't you crack it? And where did you attach your grounding wire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Bates Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 I believe that the strength of the panel is stronger than the pressure on the clips that hold it down. Besides, that's how it comes off. That's the way everyone has to take it off. You could take out the armrest section first, but you are still going to have to pry the panel up to pop it out. You can use the ground wire that is used for the cigarette lighter. You just need a wire that's connected to a ground point somewhere. There are three right there for the two lights and the cigarette lighter socket. I installed my V1 power supply near the fuse block so I connected my power and ground near there. One more thing, the wire that runs into the ashtray carrier through the hole might give it enough resistance that the ashtray doesn't open all the way under it's spring power. I ended up twisting my cable so that it helped the carrier open all the way. It kind of acts like an extra spring now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 my Escort has two wires. One attaches to the 12v by a 3M splicer. the other is a loop ground (-0). I need to unscrew then attach and rescrew. How did you tease off the center ring? Sorry for all the questions, I just don't want to break anything or fry my detector by not grounding it right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Bates Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Ahhh. I see where you are going with this! Sorry that I didn't notice sooner! Indulge me for a moment because even if you know what I'm about to say, someone else might not and it's in everyone's best interest to clarify. in any DC circuit, both the wires need to be connected or else the device won't work. You can't fry anything by not having it grounded, it just wont turn on. AC current is a different animal and the "hot" wire is really the primary wire in that case. In a DC circuit, both wires are equally important. (Really this is beyond this simple explaination because AC also needs a 2nd wire. The important part is that all of your 12V stuff has to have both a + and -/ground connection to operate.) While I did infact use both the splicer and ring terminal when I installed my new V1 power supply, I usually don't. As a matter of fact, I have a box of splicing devices that I've collected over the years 1 or 2 at a time that I'll probably never use. Most of the time it's more stable to solder the wire to other wires or make custom terminals that fit in a fuse slot or something. I'll usually take individual contacts out of a plug and solder the new wire to it and then put the contact back in the plug for a neat, professional installation. (BTW, that's a difficult thing to do with the small contacts in the Subaru plugs!) I do seem to remember that there is at least one hex bolt near the shifter that you can use for the - wire. If you want to use the splicer, you could probably clamp it right on the positive wire near the lighter socket plug. See the attachment below. The + wire is Yellow with a Green stripe. The area circled in red is the plug right behind the ashtray panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 So I want to splince into the yellow wire with the green stripe. I have the auto so hopefully there's a hex in the same area. Also, how did you get off the center ring around the shifter before using the allen wrench to get off the main cover? Did you get that diagram from the tear-down manual? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Bates Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 To get the center ring out, I lifted it with my fingernails. Be careful of the paint, lift evenly! Yes, the diagram came from the manual. I do believe that the Yellow/Green is correct. There's two or three frame bolts in there at least. Something has to hold the shifter down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 Thanks for all the help. Not that I plan on doing much but maybe I should download the manual. How much did it cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Bates Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 The manual can be downloaded in parts. I signed up for the $20 for 72 hours thing. Here's a link: [url="http://techinfo.subaru.com/html/index.jsp"]http://techinfo.subaru.com/html/index.jsp[/url] If you have a small question or anything, I'll be glad to help you, or anyone. I need to take mine apart again to run some more wires and install an ashtray door switch soon. I could take some short videos of the process. I'd convert them to .MPGs which is generally viewable by all. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 thanks Trent. Please take pics and videos. I'll add you to my buddy list to see when you're online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Bates Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 No problem Jim, no problem at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim1969 Posted October 18, 2004 Share Posted October 18, 2004 I love the Subaru community. Everyone helps each other out. PM me when you do the other things and take pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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