moviemadness Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 any of you guys realize that your HIDs are not as bright as OEM hids? they are whiter than halogens and sometimes whiter than OEM HIDs if you have 6000k+ HIDs, but I've noticed that they're not as bright.. is it only me? BTW, I have XTEC6000ks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legasee Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 our headlights were not designed with HIDs in mind so it wasn't "specifically" to be used with HIDs so it won't perform as well as the OEM BMW, Benz, Lexus'......plus your 6000k's are bluish-purple so it's not the "white-white" HIDs.. I have the 42k or the 43k (I forgot ) which is the "whitest" of the colors and it is pretty good...(my previous car had 6000k's and I couldn't see shite when it rained, but it looked "brighter" than the 43k's due to the slight blue when it wasn't raining, but ya, it was terrible in the rain ...don't know if you have that issue) someone chime in on the "bright vs white" theory....it has to do with which color/k our eyes repond better to... In Taiwan now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviemadness Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 well it's not totally blue and in the rain I use my fogs as well so visibility isn't that bad.. I do know that the 4300s are more whiter, but does that make it brighter? I wanted to move down to them but my installer said the balasts were specifically for 6000ks only, so I'd have to buy everything all over.. which I don't have the cash to... sucks.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legasee Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 installer said the balasts were specifically for 6000ks only, so I'd have to buy everything all over.. .. I call BS on the installer...peeps be changing "k's" all the time on the same ballast...x-tec's right?..I got them...and yes, u can change the k' without changing the ballasts:icon_bigg In Taiwan now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidney07 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Hmmm...just traded my 03 Legacy SE wagon for an 07 Legacy Ltd wagon...was running silverstars on the 03. The 07 has "projection beam" headlights...haven't looked in to what bulbs these use...what is the best upgrade short of hid? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Mine are a bit too bright (and too blue) they are 8000's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviemadness Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 if they are 8000k, then there's no way they are brighter. Maybe if you stare into them, but if you look towards the road, they're are no way brighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviemadness Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 I call BS on the installer...peeps be changing "k's" all the time on the same ballast...x-tec's right?..I got them...and yes, u can change the k' without changing the ballasts:icon_bigg are you 100% sure about this??? cuz if so, i'm getting 4300k bulbs ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviemadness Posted November 13, 2006 Author Share Posted November 13, 2006 This is what I got as a reply when I sent him an email "This is a slight issue in that that particular brand of HID kit does not come in anything lower than the k rating you have received. What I can try and do is contact another supplier of mine who has 5000k and lower bulbs and see if they would be comaptible with your set-up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psucaptainkickass Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 any of you guys realize that your HIDs are not as bright as OEM hids? they are whiter than halogens and sometimes whiter than OEM HIDs if you have 6000k+ HIDs, but I've noticed that they're not as bright.. is it only me? BTW, I have XTEC6000ks Depends on bulb I guess. http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36402 Look at my before and afters. I am running Xtec 5000k bulbs. I am roughly the same distance from the blue can in each pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWDxBOOST Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 mine are def brighter stock rx330 lights and ballasts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Much brighter than the stock halogens, I have the 6000K Apexcones. Night and day. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sic GT Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 My 4300K HID's are way brighter then my g/f's 03 BMW 325 ( 5000 or 5500k) & definately way brighter then the oem Subaru H-7's. They work really well w/ the Subaru projector beam set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STG Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 our headlights were not designed with HIDs in mind so it wasn't "specifically" to be used with HIDs so it won't perform as well as the OEM BMW, Benz, Lexus'......plus your 6000k's are bluish-purple so it's not the "white-white" HIDs.. I have the 42k or the 43k (I forgot ) which is the "whitest" of the colors and it is pretty good...(my previous car had 6000k's and I couldn't see shite when it rained, but it looked "brighter" than the 43k's due to the slight blue when it wasn't raining, but ya, it was terrible in the rain ...don't know if you have that issue) someone chime in on the "bright vs white" theory....it has to do with which color/k our eyes repond better to... After doing considerable research on HID, I have learned that these after market el cheapo conversions don't work. None of them located the bulb and/or filament correctly within the Subaru's reflector. I'm going to try a set of 9011 HIR bulbs ($29.95 ea. from http://www.rallylights.com). These bulbs, designed by GE put out 75% of real, correctly designed HIDs and reflectors. They are manufacturered by Toshiba and are currently OEM in certain vehicles like the Dodge Viper. Most importantly, the 9011 bulb locates the filament in the exact same location as out 9005 high beams. The base is identical except for one notch, and is easily modified. I don't care how much wattage or volts or lumins or candlepower an HID bulb puts out, if the filamement isn't correctly located within the housing, it's a waste of money. If you want to rice-out your Legacy and like the look of HIDs lighting, great. It won't help you see at night, but you will look cool in the high school parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt_ltd Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 any of you guys realize that your HIDs are not as bright as OEM hids? they are whiter than halogens and sometimes whiter than OEM HIDs if you have 6000k+ HIDs, but I've noticed that they're not as bright.. is it only me? BTW, I have XTEC6000ks The OEM HID on the 07 JDM Legacy isn't that much brighter than the 4100K kit I installed on an 05 USDM Legacy - at least not as much as I expected. This Space For Rent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerseyglock Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 I have 10k, what a difference!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 oem d1s and d2s xenon systems use 4100k bulbs usually referred to as 4300k bulbs. kelvin rating is color related not brightness. the lower the kelvin rating (to an extent) the higher visibility will be, especially in the rain. peace MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 any of you guys realize that your HIDs are not as bright as OEM hids? they are whiter than halogens and sometimes whiter than OEM HIDs if you have 6000k+ HIDs, but I've noticed that they're not as bright.. is it only me? BTW, I have XTEC6000ks Having tried 6ks and 43ks... the 43ks are LEAGUES brighter than the 6ks. 6ks SUCK in the rain. The blue does nothing for illumination. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psucaptainkickass Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 43k huh? they must be really really really blue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 If you want to rice-out your Legacy and like the look of HIDs lighting, great. It won't help you see at night, but you will look cool in the high school parking lot. Having had 4300k HIDs, 6000k HIDs, and going back to stock a couple of times... the 4300k HIDs put out way more light. and both the 4300k and 6000k make a big difference when they hit anything reflective (signs, traffic signs, over pass signs, reflective gear). Anything higher than 5000k loses effectiveness... anything over 6000k become ricey. Not saying it's perfect but the car does have projectors and HIDs on it do not look aftermarket. Not saying that the stock lighting isn't good/great but the HIDS ARE better than stock. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STG Posted November 13, 2006 Share Posted November 13, 2006 Having had 4300k HIDs, 6000k HIDs, and going back to stock a couple of times... the 4300k HIDs put out way more light. and both the 4300k and 6000k make a big difference when they hit anything reflective (signs, traffic signs, over pass signs, reflective gear). Anything higher than 5000k loses effectiveness... anything over 6000k become ricey. Not saying it's perfect but the car does have projectors and HIDs on it do not look aftermarket. Not saying that the stock lighting isn't good/great but the HIDS ARE better than stock. I don't understand. You're talking about color temperatures, not light output. Although you may perceive a certain color light being more effective, if the wattage is identical, so is the output. Of course, if the bulbs are different, some could position the filament closer to optimum in your reflectors than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviemadness Posted November 14, 2006 Author Share Posted November 14, 2006 so then who makes the brightest aftermarket HIDs? or the highest wattage output for the stronger beam for the brighter light...? can anyone confirm that my ballasts will work with 4300k bulbs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 I don't understand. You're talking about color temperatures, not light output. Although you may perceive a certain color light being more effective, if the wattage is identical, so is the output. Of course, if the bulbs are different, some could position the filament closer to optimum in your reflectors than others. The blue of the 6000k blends with the night and doesn't look "bright"... especially in the rain. The 4300k stand out in stark constrast to the night and are definitely brighter than the stock bulbs. I understand Kelvin. I have had marine aquariums for 15 years now and have studied astronomy for leisure and academics. [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt_ltd Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 can anyone confirm that my ballasts will work with 4300k bulbs? your ballasts are compatible with XTEC's 4300K bulbs. you can also ask any XTEC vendors in this forum. This Space For Rent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lookslikeanevo Posted November 14, 2006 Share Posted November 14, 2006 All I can say is that aftermarket HID's in halogen projector housings must be nightmareish for other drivers with no self leveling mechanism. not ass bad as people with thier headlightspointed striaght up tp the rear view headlights or "bro trucks" aka "lifted trucks" with their lights on.. you guys are fighting a fight that..shouldnt even be discussed...its getting really retarted...do post in all the trcuk forums and things like that, about their lights causing a distraction, or go tell people off whose lights are not calibrated accordingly...deal with those people first as I am Damn sure that there are more cars on the road with the above mentioned, rather than cars that bother people because of hid kits, and projectors without self leveling units Current:MY05 SWP wagon - 253/290 UP, AEM CAI, Invidia Q300, tuned@yimisport OLD: MY06 GRP - 274/314 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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