ogradnis Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I want to install H-tech springs onto my stock shocks but I heard that installing lowering springs onto the stock shocks will cause the shocks to wear much more quickly. Any thoughts? Also, how long can I expect the springs to last? They are only warranted for a year. Should I be concerned? FYI: I have an '05 LGT w/ approx. 27K mi. Any advice is appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 subsrcibe Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legasee Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 I want to know too In Taiwan now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faudi Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 5000 miles with no issues so far, I'll let you know when the shocks blow, or the springs start to sag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sutter2k Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 Springs should last a long time, but will age the shocks quicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legasee Posted September 13, 2006 Share Posted September 13, 2006 the springs shouldn't sag due to struts wearing down since the spring height is not related to strut condition.....so I was told. In Taiwan now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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madboy Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Yeah how about some feelings from those with a few miles on their Htechs and stock shocks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 my guess is about 36,000 miles before you have shock issues... Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec B Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I always thought that the effect on the shocks will be more of a result of the increased spring rate than the actual drop. Considering that the H's are relatively close to the stock spring rate (at least they feel about the same), I do not expect them to wear out the shocks significantly quicker than stock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legasee Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 Yeah how about some feelings from those with a few miles on their Htechs and stock shocks... welcome.....some feelings are in "search for H-techs"...there are LOTS of info on it's height, lots of pics, just lots of stuff...just gotta search a lot of peeps here have the H-techs and like the close-to-OEM spring rate, it lowers the car nicely without over doing it...I like them In Taiwan now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 I always thought that the effect on the shocks will be more of a result of the increased spring rate than the actual drop. Considering that the H's are relatively close to the stock spring rate (at least they feel about the same), I do not expect them to wear out the shocks significantly quicker than stock. it's the shortening of the stroke that puts stress on the valves and seals. Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDII Posted September 14, 2006 Share Posted September 14, 2006 welcome.....some feelings are in "search for H-techs"...there are LOTS of info on it's height, lots of pics, just lots of stuff...just gotta search a lot of peeps here have the H-techs and like the close-to-OEM spring rate, it lowers the car nicely without over doing it...I like them you search for h-techs little to no info, because its posted as "H techs" On this site you can not search with spaces. Need forum help? Private Message legGTLT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Spec B Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 it's the shortening of the stroke that puts stress on the valves and seals. Interesting..so the lower you go..the worse it is for the shock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Interesting..so the lower you go..the worse it is for the shock? it's possible, like everything, things are designed to spec.. if the suspension travel range is not within spec, you will likely to wear something out just like anything else. Just like my Zeals (and supposedly, many other coilovers out there), eventhough the almost the entire shock body is threaded for the ride height adjustment doesnt mean you can use all of it. Zeal has a warning label/instructions not to lower the car past a certain point on them, because basically the shock motion is out of range. in most cases for fixed perch shocks, there is a limit to them. If you shorten the suspension travel on the shock, that means it's pre-loaded, so when you do use that range of the shock of what is expected, it will bottom out and possibly blow out the seals.. That is why there is the creation of the bump-stops, to prevent the final fall out. But people still cut bump stops short and such to give them the proper look to the car (well, that's the chance that they are willing to take). Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emlevins Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 my guess is about 36,000 miles before you have shock issues... About right from my experience. I put the Ions on at about 10K miles. I now have about 35K miles and I need shocks. 05 SWP Legacy GT Limited (aka "Pearl")- 5MT AP - Stage 2 Protuned (238/284) - wife driven 07 BMW 335xi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogradnis Posted September 15, 2006 Author Share Posted September 15, 2006 I would go with coilovers if I had $1300 to drop on them right now but since I don't I figured H-techs would be the next best thing. How much could I expect to pay for a set of shocks to match the H-techs with the proper travel? If it's going to be close in price I may as well wait until I can afford coilovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougeben83 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I would go with coilovers if I had $1300 to drop on them right now but since I don't I figured H-techs would be the next best thing. How much could I expect to pay for a set of shocks to match the H-techs with the proper travel? If it's going to be close in price I may as well wait until I can afford coilovers. Search the suspension section for some of the aftermarket shocks that are available for your car. There's a couple of stiffer valved shocks that are available or will be available for use with lowering springs. Shocks wear out no matter what they're made off though. They're a wear item, plain and simple. It may not be worth the cost of upgrading your shocks if you're not going to be using all of the features built into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Generally how much would h techs and some good shocks be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 ^ depends on the kind of shock choices out there, I think the only ones out on the market would be a set of Bilstein takeoffs or the Tokico HTS/D-Spec shocks.. I dont think Koni or Ohlins has a set yet... pricing for those shocks are floating around somwhere... Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rougeben83 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Springs are a little over $200, GR-2 shocks are a little under $300 I believe...looking at $500+ for the set. The jump to some beefier shocks is pretty high though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VTGT Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 So saving up for coilovers seems more worth while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.T.Subie Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I am starting to dislike my H Techs with stock struts. The ride is getting to harsh for where I live. Denial is your best friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilleg Posted September 21, 2006 Share Posted September 21, 2006 too harsh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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