neelnug Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 Grand Prix GXP that features a 5.3 liter supercharged v8 producing 260hp. Look at the engine description: http://www.pontiac.com/byo/selectOption.pg;jsessionid=X5W250QWDQWSCCQN1EBCDSQKBXMQKIPS?fromColor=true&make=pg&style=GXP%201SA&zip=48226&noType=0&makeId=002&model=Grand%20Prix&styleId=GXP%201SA&subModelId=82&year=2006&modelId=044&pvc=2232&&exteriorColorId=46U&interiorColorId=193&seatTypeId=AR9&colorOptions=46U^193^AR9&exteriorColor=Stealth%20Gray%20Metallic%20&interiorColor=Ebony%20Ultralux%20Suede/leather-appointed%20Seating%20&colorVisited=true&inValidOptions=&originatingBrand=GRANDPRIX&vehicleModel=/images/gmbp/16002/vehicle/2006/med/82_928L.jpg&exteriorColorChipUrl=/images/gmbp/color/chips/ext/med/928L.gif&interiorColorChipUrl=/images/gmbp/color/chips/int/med/193_grandprix.gif&iPi=2&fPi=3&contexLink= Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panamajack Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC GT Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 How lame is Pontiac that it needs a supercharger to get its 5.3 liter V8 to spit out 260 hp and 280 torque? Hell, Honda and Nissan have been getting better than that out of their normally aspirated V6s for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBLU24 Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 it says 303 hp if u click the description link for the 5.3 v8 the v6 is supercharged and makes 260/280 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthGT Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 still sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 still sucks Now dont get me wrong, there is no replacement for displacement, but if you can only get 303hp out of 5.3L then there is somthing wrong. all the other car manufaturer's have smaller engines making more power with less displacement. if you give a european or asian enginier 5.3L to play with, they damn sure are getting more than 303hp. this is why GM=poo when it comes to making anything other than the 'vet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted August 20, 2006 Share Posted August 20, 2006 It has pushrods.. com'n. Any power advantage they get with the displacement they lose in inefficiency. If GM didn't makes cars at least I'd get a nice car everytime I had to rent. I usually say to myself "I can see why this is a rental, who would _buy_ this POS?" They don't even use the metric system, do you expect advanced technology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_templer_102 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Well other thing is Merc can make 380 and have a 5.5 but be super emissions friendly at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Well other thing is Merc can make 380 and have a 5.5 but be super emissions friendly at the same time. how much does the MB cost? apples to oranges. try the Cadillac V instead. bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_templer_102 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 True, i was just stateing that it could be "world friendlyish" OT, I dunno why but your name reminds me of an italian food or something...like a breadstick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 5.3l.........303hp 6.0l.........400hp 7.0l.........505hp 8.0l.........550hp HP is HP......who cares how much displacement it has;) The only silly thing with the GXP is the fact it is wrong wheel drive Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bosco Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 5.3l.........303hp 6.0l.........400hp 7.0l.........505hp 8.0l.........550hp HP is HP......who cares how much displacement it has;) The only silly thing with the GXP is the fact it is wrong wheel drive no kidding on the wrong wheel drive. btw 5.7l.....405 hp..... 03 Z06 Vette. bosco Stay Stock Stay Happy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnAWD Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Supercharged 5.3litre v8 and only making 260 hp? *snicker* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 No supercharger on the 5.3, thats on the 3.8V6 GTP. Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Usually those numbers make for some fun. But, with the FWD configuration, the fun ends as soon as you understeer yourself though a curve and strait into a tree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 US automakers have always had a different standard than the rest of the world. For NA engines, a high performance US engine is 1 hp per cubic inch. The rest of the world shoot for 100 hp per liter. So a 5.3 liter engine SHOULD be making 530 hp. BMW M5 engine is 5.0 liter V10 and that makes 500 hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Can GM remake the frigging Grand National already? I love that car. I wonder if they had released the GTO named instead the Grand National availible in black only with a black and silver seats and instead of a V8 put a turbo V6 if it would've sold better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 actually - they could probably make a Grand National based off the next Camaro: http://www.248am.com/images/camaro.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meier motor sports Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 doooo eeettt! 08 gn ftw!!! man an entire post with no actual words!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommyh Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 5.3l.........303hp 6.0l.........400hp 7.0l.........505hp 8.0l.........550hp HP is HP......who cares how much displacement it has;) The only silly thing with the GXP is the fact it is wrong wheel drive This is very true. The Grand Prix GXP is the Chevy Impala SS; pretty nice, but I’ll keep my LGT. To argue everyone else’s points: how much do GM's engines weigh, and what's their overall dimensions compared to other manufacturers? If I remember right, GM decided to stick with the pushrod motors because they are a much smaller, lighter, simpler, and less expensive mill than others, even though it would require them to use a larger internal displacement, or add cylinders. Overall, I'd say it's a wash and that comparing displacement to displacement is a useless proposition. A better comparison would be HP&Tq/lbs to HP&Tq/lbs...I actually think GM would win this over other companies. Think about this, GM is shoving a 5.3L V8 AND AUTOMATIC TRANSAXLE under the hood of a car, and it’s not overly long. I can’t think of another company that’s doing the same thing…even if I don’t like FWD. Martin Luther - "Who loves not women, wine and song remains a fool his whole life long." EL4NFZT7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexrw Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Has not a single person given thought about the fact it is a Pontaic and how bad it is to look at it? When I saw the picture and realized it hasn't changed aesthetically I didn't go any further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommyh Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 http://www.pontiac.com/grandprix/galleryEnlarge.jsp?image=ext_profile That's "bad to look at"? Eh, to each thier own. Most people just hate it out right because it has the word "Pontiac" on it. I'll give it it's fair shake...like I did with Subaru... Martin Luther - "Who loves not women, wine and song remains a fool his whole life long." EL4NFZT7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I know I'm one of the "older" members but I would take the GXP**if it was RWD over a STI any day. Not the best looking car out there but there is alot worse out there. I looked very closely @ a 04 CTS-V with less than 10k & if it did not have a problem with extreme axle hop @ launch that is what I would be driving today. I will take another serious look @ the CTS-V when it comes time to sell the LGT. Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wukindada Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 It is.....think it's 60/40:( No cheaper looking than a STI Toyota 6EATS .........SUCK!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommyh Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 It is.....think it's 60/40:( No cheaper looking than a STI To help compair apples to apples, what's the weight split on a Nissan Maxima, Acura TL or even an Audi A/S4? (I honnestly don't know, so I could be wrong on this...) The '07 GP GXP is also nearly $5,000 cheaper than Subaru's top of the line performance sedan ('07 LGT Spec.B)...not including discounds, rebates, hagling, etc. Something else to think about...the Grand Prix GXP makes 303hp @ 5600 rpm and 323 ft-lbs @ 4400 rpm using REGULAR gas and gets 18/27MPG to boot...imagine the cost savings... (all numbers are coming from http://www.edmunds.com) Martin Luther - "Who loves not women, wine and song remains a fool his whole life long." EL4NFZT7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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