SnarlyMarley Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 The WRX wagon has a different rear track and smaller sway bar than the sedan. I think this is because of the non flared wagon fenders. Is this the same case for the Legacy? If it is a nice upgrade to the wagon suspension would be adding a sedan rear sway bar just like the WRX guys. James Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 [quote name='SnarlyMarley']The WRX wagon has a different rear track and smaller sway bar than the sedan. I think this is because of the non flared wagon fenders. Is this the same case for the Legacy? If it is a nice upgrade to the wagon suspension would be adding a sedan rear sway bar just like the WRX guys. James[/quote] I think not James. The wagon and sedan rear suspension are the same (or so I hear), so no quick fixes this time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LegacyGT330Ci Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Yah I also heard they use the same underbody including suspension through out the sedan and wagon. '05 Black Legacy GT Wagon 5-spd '02 Topaz/Black 330Ci 5-spd Drift Ryder's School of Rally Arts, coming to an Australia near you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Good call on that from Subaru. I wasn't happy about the wagon suspension being inferior when I had my WRX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucktoo Posted September 15, 2004 Share Posted September 15, 2004 Does any one know what Subaru changed in the suspensions between the Legacy GT and Outback XT to get the height differences ? Can Legacy coilovers be used on and Outback ? Thanks Charlie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 [quote name='chucktoo']Does any one know what Subaru changed in the suspensions between the Legacy GT and Outback XT to get the height differences ? Can Legacy coilovers be used on and Outback ? Thanks Charlie[/quote] I'm pretty sure they have the same suspension geometry as the OB is based on the Legacy platform (wagon). THe biggest difference is probably the springs/struts. I would presume that you could use Legacy Wagon coilovers on an OB with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver72 Posted September 26, 2004 Share Posted September 26, 2004 [quote name='05LegacyGT330Ci']Yah I also heard they use the same underbody including suspension through out the sedan and wagon.[/quote] I'm curious though, as I pointed out in another thread, the LGT wagon has a ground clearance of 5mm higher than the LGT sedan. Nobody seemed to know as to whether or not that was caused by slightly different suspension. I posted the GVWR and the GAWR of the LGT Limited sedan but nobody did so with a LGT Wagon. I don't know if a SOA rep would know why the LGT wagon has a 5 mm higher ground clearance and if it's caused by different suspension or not. But until we find out why, it's possible the suspension setting IS different between the sedan and wagon in the LGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC GT Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 From what I am piecing together from the thread regarding JDM suspensions, in comparing the JDM GT suspensions, it appears that the sedans and wagons may share the same struts and front springs, but different rear springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 [quote name='SC GT']From what I am piecing together from the thread regarding JDM suspensions, in comparing the JDM GT suspensions, it appears that the sedans and wagons may share the same struts and front springs, but different rear springs.[/quote] Usually, the wagons get stiffer rear springs, in case someone actually wants to use the cargo bay. :lol: Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver72 Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 That makes sense. Just out of curiousity, what's the GVWR and GAWR (front and rear) of the wagon? This way we can compare it to the sedan and see if the wagon really does have stiffer rear springs to carry more weight. That would explain why it's ground clearance is 5 mm more and part of why it's overall height is about 2 inches taller too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC GT Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 [quote name='gtguy'][quote name='SC GT']From what I am piecing together from the thread regarding JDM suspensions, in comparing the JDM GT suspensions, it appears that the sedans and wagons may share the same struts and front springs, but different rear springs.[/quote] Usually, the wagons get stiffer rear springs, in case someone actually wants to use the cargo bay. :lol: Kevin[/quote] Cargo bay? I thought you guys just bought the wagon for their looks. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 [quote name='SC GT'][quote name='gtguy'][quote name='SC GT']From what I am piecing together from the thread regarding JDM suspensions, in comparing the JDM GT suspensions, it appears that the sedans and wagons may share the same struts and front springs, but different rear springs.[/quote] Usually, the wagons get stiffer rear springs, in case someone actually wants to use the cargo bay. :lol: Kevin[/quote] Cargo bay? I thought you guys just bought the wagon for their looks. ;)[/quote] Well, that too. After all, friends don't let friends drive sedans. :lol: Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rao Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 GVW of both the GT sedan and wagon are the same at 4435 lbs. Front GAWR is the same at 2295 lbs. Rear GAWR is the same at 2335 lbs. Yet another reason why wagons are silly :D Rob IF YOU CARE ABOUT YOUR CAR YOU SHOULD NEVER DRIVE IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted September 28, 2004 Share Posted September 28, 2004 [quote name='rao']GVW of both the GT sedan and wagon are the same at 4435 lbs. Front GAWR is the same at 2295 lbs. Rear GAWR is the same at 2335 lbs. Yet another reason why wagons are silly :D[/quote] Yo mama. :lol: And I'll keep that in mind when, rather than taking the wheels off my bike to fit it in the trunk, I can just pop the liftgate and throw the whole thing in, wheels and all. Back on topic, the WRX wagon had stiffer springs than the WRX sedan. The weight difference between the two cars is about 80 lbs. The weight difference (total) between Legacy sedan and wagon is about 50 lbs, which does make one wonder if stiffer springs for the wagon are necessary. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Driver72 Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 Kevin, I agree with you. I like wagons and WISH more people that need reasonable amounts of cargo room would get them instead of a Tahoe! But the when it comes to weights, the base LGT wagon is 55 pounds heavier than the base LGT sedan. But when you look at the Limited models the difference balloons to 70 pounds more. Again, not a huge amount, but I'm guessing it's because of the dual sunroof the Limited wagon has, while the Limted sedan only has one sunroof. If both models have the same GVWR and the same GAWR for both front and rear, I wonder why the wagon has that 5 mm extra ground clearance. Maybe Subaru really did give the wagon just a bit stiffer rear springs, but kept the weight rating the same for ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimil Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 BTW, Owners manual also shows that sedan has more camber in rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted September 29, 2004 Share Posted September 29, 2004 [quote name='dimil']BTW, Owners manual also shows that sedan has more camber in rear.[/quote] Yes, but neither model has very much. The WRX wagon, for example, had a stock camber setting of -1.3. With the front set at -.9, it was very nice. I've forgotten what the GT's stock rear camber setting is, but it isn't -1.3. You can tell that just by eyeballing a GT sedan, parked next to a WRX sedan. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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