washburn33 Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Here is the comparison of the WRX STI street sway bars from the Hotchkis. Hotchkis Tuning Sport Sway bars improve your handling and reduce body roll. Turn in with confidence and late brake in the corners with our track tested lightweight hollow sway bars. Sway bar sets include front and rear bars, greasable bushings, brackets, and a subframe reinforcement bracket. Front 1" (25.4 mm) Hollow +50% Rear 1" (25.4 mm) Hollow 3 Position Rear +50%, +90%, +160% Hollow VS Solid (To be used as referece only) Front Bar Rates: Hotchkis Hollow Bar = 880 lbs/in. Solid (7/8") = 725 lbs/in. Rear Bar Rates: Hotchkis Hollow Bar = 300 lbs/in. Solid (15/16") = 300 lbs/in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team23jordan Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 too bad hotchkis doesn't make sway bars for LGT Perrin BIG maf intake Perrin Turbo Inlet HKS SSQV BOV Megan Racing header with UP (ceramic coated) HKS DP (WRX) DMH E-cutout Custom 3" catback UTEC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washburn33 Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 in about 30 days they will. They are finishing up the rear mounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOXRPWR Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 in about 30 days they will. They are finishing up the rear mounts. that's probably 30 Martian days........these sways have been "pending" forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washburn33 Posted March 26, 2006 Author Share Posted March 26, 2006 I would rather them release it when it is perfect, then just release it to get it out there. I don't want to deal with the laterally sliding sway bar crap of the whitelines or the control arm bashing of the perrins that Patagonian GT had to deal with. I'll wait 30 martian days when it is ready and perfect. "Good things come to those who wait." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOXRPWR Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 don't get me wrong. I'll be among the first to buy the Hotchkis products. but I think the Perrins got a bad rap. I've had both Perrins on for over a year without a hint of trouble. my endlinks loosened up but that was taken care of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobY Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Damn thats alot of front bias for the sti... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panamajack Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 I belive the guy has the race prepared Legacy has a set of prototype bars. To lazy to search for his name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsalicru Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Don't expect big bars and a whole lot of stuff. Typically a sport set is the simpler setup. The competition setup is where its at. Just doubtful that it will come out for a Legacy. I, too, like Hotchkis quite a bit. But Im tired of waiting. Got Whiteline. Regarding the sliding and what not. Expect ANY bar to slide side to side. "some say, his arms are made of coiled adamantium fibers. And that he tops his cereal with nuts and bolts. All we know is, he's called the Jose." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutBucket Posted March 26, 2006 Share Posted March 26, 2006 Don't expect big bars and a whole lot of stuff. Typically a sport set is the simpler setup. The competition setup is where its at. Just doubtful that it will come out for a Legacy. I, too, like Hotchkis quite a bit. But Im tired of waiting. Got Whiteline. Regarding the sliding and what not. Expect ANY bar to slide side to side. Yeah, but not enough to bash brakelines loose. I'm glad I dumped the WL for a Cusco. The hell with adjustability....just needs to work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsalicru Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Yeah, but not enough to bash brakelines loose. I'm glad I dumped the WL for a Cusco. The hell with adjustability....just needs to work! I dont see this problem that everyone seems to be having. 1. Free collars. 2. I have had mine installed for a couple of days and have done around 75 miles on canyon running (really) and another 200 miles of street/hwy driving without a single issue. The clearance is good and I don't have side-to-side problems. During the times I drive the LGT I drive it fairly spiritedly. WhiteLine has already addressed the sliding problem that a few (read not most) people had and it should be in the past. No need to continue the negative bashing because you could almost apply a negative bash to just about EVERY LGT part in existance (GP Moto boots, Perrin fitment, Whiteline sliding, etc.). Be happy that the products are even offered. Negative comments that help diminish the small amount of parts doesn't really help the desire for new parts. "some say, his arms are made of coiled adamantium fibers. And that he tops his cereal with nuts and bolts. All we know is, he's called the Jose." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I still have problemswith my Whiteline rubbing against the lower control arm. That issue has not been addressed. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NutBucket Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 I dont see this problem that everyone seems to be having. 1. Free collars. 2. I have had mine installed for a couple of days and have done around 75 miles on canyon running (really) and another 200 miles of street/hwy driving without a single issue. The clearance is good and I don't have side-to-side problems. During the times I drive the LGT I drive it fairly spiritedly. WhiteLine has already addressed the sliding problem that a few (read not most) people had and it should be in the past. No need to continue the negative bashing because you could almost apply a negative bash to just about EVERY LGT part in existance (GP Moto boots, Perrin fitment, Whiteline sliding, etc.). Be happy that the products are even offered. Negative comments that help diminish the small amount of parts doesn't really help the desire for new parts. Fair enough. I guess I should stop since the problem has been addressed and WL bars I put on my gf's car work as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsalicru Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 its unfortunate that LittleBlueGT still has problems. Its interesting though because my LGT is now a little lower than before. I'll check when i get home tonight. Maybe I'll take a pic or two. "some say, his arms are made of coiled adamantium fibers. And that he tops his cereal with nuts and bolts. All we know is, he's called the Jose." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 but I think the Perrins got a bad rap. I've had both Perrins on for over a year without a hint of trouble. my endlinks loosened up but that was taken care of. congrats and consider yourself lucky. Four of us were confirmed to have impact issues and the response from the manufacturer was indicative of their quality control and R&D (or lack thereof). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driggity Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 Damn thats alot of front bias for the sti... How is that a lot of front bias? 50% stiffer is pretty close to going from the stock 20mm bar to a 22mm bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 JDM rear sway FTW!!!! My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsalicru Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 congrats and consider yourself lucky. Four of us were confirmed to have impact issues and the response from the manufacturer was indicative of their quality control and R&D (or lack thereof). Actually, I can say that he had SLIGHT issues only. Also, it would have been impossible to use the stiffest rear setting without the use of the extended endlinks from AVO. "some say, his arms are made of coiled adamantium fibers. And that he tops his cereal with nuts and bolts. All we know is, he's called the Jose." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 so, make that five with issues then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsalicru Posted March 28, 2006 Share Posted March 28, 2006 The main issue with the Perrin unit from what I saw was the simple fact that it needed extended endlinks. Also, I wish they still had the three settings as i want the extra rear roll stiffness. "some say, his arms are made of coiled adamantium fibers. And that he tops his cereal with nuts and bolts. All we know is, he's called the Jose." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LittleBlueGT Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 AVOs endlinks go shorter only, not longer. I have them, and if they do go longer it would only be about 1 mm. Full tune of 68HTA, KSTech 73 MAF, Racer X FMIC and ID1000s................by the DataLog Mafia!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Something to add based on the title of this thread... I spoke to Mike at WORX tuning and they will be bringing springs and adj. F+R sways to the market in a few weeks. The rears will have reinforcement brackets that fit easily. So far, they have not had any bump or banging issues under hard accel/decel. Also, they used to rebadge Hotchki hollow sway bars like COBB, but they found that the solid bar they are using now has a more linear effect for the same strength, and has much less NVH... Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 what did he says about that 'other project'? He's never gotten back to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 So is it worth waiting for hollow Hotchkis bars or just go with Cusco or Whiteline? -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praedet Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Hmmm... Dan The cb is a < 2 months out. The tmic is TBD. Ted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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