Black Dragon Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) Good Day everyone, I need your help guys with this issue by only posting a picture of your 4th Gen MAF without removing it from its place. And here is why: I found that JET have a MAF for our cars and decided to try it out with my setup. I went to the website and got the result as this link https://jetchip.com/shop/performance-engine-upgrades/mass-air-flow-sensor/69167-powr-flo-mass-air-sensor/ Most of us who installed an intake know the shape of our MAF is the same for LGT and 3.0R for 4th Gen and also it is the same part number as per Subaru.com website https://parts.subaru.com/p/Subaru__/Mass-Air-Flow-Sensor-Meter-Air-FlowMass-Air-Flow-Sensor/49232593/22680AA310.html I went ahead and ordered it from JEGS store in Amazon and once it arrives, it wasn't the correct one. I double checked JET website and the box got the same part number that is in the website. The picture in JET website looks generic so I don't have a clue about who is wrong here. I contacted JET regarding this and told them that if they have the correct part number in their website, it must be packed by mistake in the wrong box so I shipped it back to JET not JEGS which means I paid for that shipping. And when I received the new one, it's just the same as the old one that I received. I contacted them multiple time and they just replied with confidence that they did not make any mistake and I'm the one who is wrong or cheating here. So can you please guys post pictures of you MAF of your 4th Gen Legacy? Edited November 11, 2021 by Black Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitexc Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 OEM. Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 Wrx and LGT use a different design. I learned this when I deleted my MAF and needed a block-off plate. I have my oem MAF sensor in a box in the garage $25 plus shipping if you want it. Has about 45k miles on it "Striving to better, oft we mar what's well." - Bill Shakespeare - car modder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 " The flow bench tested design of the JET Mass Air Sensor provides airflow increases of up to 45% and installs in 10 minutes or less. " A sensor absolutely can NOT increase air flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 " The flow bench tested design of the JET Mass Air Sensor provides airflow increases of up to 45% and installs in 10 minutes or less. " A sensor absolutely can NOT increase air flow. This is not what I'm here for but I was going to compare it with oem MAF in a big tube intake to see if there is any benefit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 OEM. Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk Thats what I want. The picture of OEM MAF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 This is not what I'm here for but I was going to compare it with oem MAF in a big tube intake to see if there is any benefit. generally all these 'chip' type things do is use a resistor to skew the intake temperature reading that the ECM sees so it changes the fueling at that load point. I am interested to see what kind of testing you do to find its potential gains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Here are pictures I took years ago, 2005 LGT. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 generally all these 'chip' type things do is use a resistor to skew the intake temperature reading that the ECM sees so it changes the fueling at that load point. I am interested to see what kind of testing you do to find its potential gains. tune and logging Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted November 11, 2021 Author Share Posted November 11, 2021 Here are pictures I took years ago, 2005 LGT. [ATTACH]294075[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]294076[/ATTACH] [ATTACH]294077[/ATTACH] That's the same style as the one that I got. I wonder if the 2008 are using this MAF. If it's the same, then I owe them an apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted November 12, 2021 Author Share Posted November 12, 2021 Need more photos 2008 preferably Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infosecdad Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 The 2008s use the same MAF as the 2005s https://parts.subaru.com/p/Subaru_2005_Legacy-25L-TURBO-5MT-4WD-GT-Limited-Wagon/Mass-Air-Flow-Sensor/49232594/22680AA31A.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 I really enjoy the fact that they reply to you, copying their own website information saying that "we only list the 2.5" but in that list is the 2008 LL bean EZ30D, and a 2010 "V6 3.6L". Instills that confidence in the product! Gotta keep in mind OP seems to be in Saudi Arabia, and I'm not really sure what 'market' of Subaru's were shipped there. I did find on opposedforces a very strange looking MAF I'd not seen before when looking at google images. 22680AA360 Could you take a picture of your MAF and show us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 The 2008s use the same MAF as the 2005s https://parts.subaru.com/p/Subaru_2005_Legacy-25L-TURBO-5MT-4WD-GT-Limited-Wagon/Mass-Air-Flow-Sensor/49232594/22680AA31A.html Exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted November 16, 2021 Author Share Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) here is a picture of mine and a clean one 22680AA31A in North America market is the same as 22680AA310 which is for the rest of the world Edited November 16, 2021 by Black Dragon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infosecdad Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 The JET Performance MAF matches the WRX for that generation, but the Legacy MAF is mirrored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 I still need more photos of couple of 4th gen Legacy MAF please. 5 members will be enough and we already got 1 so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infosecdad Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 What are you looking for in the picture? Orientation of the screw holes or something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted November 17, 2021 Author Share Posted November 17, 2021 The MAF itself. Just as proofs for the case against JET Performance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted November 21, 2021 Author Share Posted November 21, 2021 Please guys I need 3 more pictures. You don't have to take it out, just pop the hood and snap a picture of the MAF right where it is without removing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Code Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Lol "Striving to better, oft we mar what's well." - Bill Shakespeare - car modder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted November 23, 2021 Author Share Posted November 23, 2021 Lol is there anything to laugh about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverton Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 the whole thread actually. I hate feeling compelled to do other peoples homework, I even took a screenshot showing i literally put every vehicle in to look, especially when you can google search all the engine bay pics you want. After having to type this list out, there is zero consistency with this manufacturer. why separate the 2.5i and the outback sport? it's the same car as far as the MAF is considered. same with the wrx's, and the sti's.... why dont they don't know the engine code in the 2009 wrx? or the 2010 vvvveeeeee six legacy?? Shit, I want a v6 legacy, just to see what it looks like under the hood. It's little details like this that really need to make you question, is this a reputable product? Here's the homework I've done for you, I've gone through every model here and looked up its MAF part number. This should be all the information you need, not pictures. 2008 Impreza - 2.5i H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA3802008 Impreza - Outback Sport H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA3802008 Impreza - WRX H4 - 2.5L - EJ255 - 22680AA3802008 Impreza - WRX Limited H4 - 2.5L - EJ255 - 22680AA3802008 Impreza - WRX STI H4 - 2.5L - EJ257 - 22680AA3802008 Impreza - WRX STI Limited H4 - 2.5L - EJ257 - 22680AA3802008 Impreza - WRX TR H4 - 2.5L - EJ257 - 22680AA3802008 Legacy - GT Limited H4 - 2.5L - EJ255 - 22680AA31A2008 Legacy - GT Spec.B H4 - 2.5L - EJ255 - 22680AA31A2008 Outback - 2.5i H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2008 Outback - 2.5i Basic H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2008 Outback - 2.5i Limited H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2008 Outback - R LL Bean Edition H6 - 3L - EZ30D - 22680AA31A2008 Outback - XT Limited H4 - 2.5L - EJ255 - 22680AA31A2009 Forester H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA3802009 Impreza H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA3802009 Legacy H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2009 Outback H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2009 Impreza - WRX H4 - 2.5L - 22680AA3802010 Outback H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2010 Forester H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA380 transition year, but EJ+FB engines use same MAF sensor2010 Impreza H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA3802010 Legacy H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2010 Legacy V?6 - 3.6L - 22680AA38A I could not see where Subaru may have offered a V6 version of this vehicle, so I selected the H6. So... the Impreza, including the wrx and sti, along with the forester use the 380 MAF. The turbo legacy/outback and 3.0L flat six use the 31A MAF. The Non-turbo Legacy/Outback uses the 38A MAF. The 380 and 38A look interchangeable, but as someone said previously, the 31A is a mirror for the mounting holes. All that being researched and said, for this company to say their MAF is compatible with that list of vehicles, is just a straight up lie. I can only imagine the rest of their information follows the same vein. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dragon Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 the whole thread actually. I hate feeling compelled to do other peoples homework, I even took a screenshot showing i literally put every vehicle in to look, especially when you can google search all the engine bay pics you want. After having to type this list out, there is zero consistency with this manufacturer. why separate the 2.5i and the outback sport? it's the same car as far as the MAF is considered. same with the wrx's, and the sti's.... why dont they don't know the engine code in the 2009 wrx? or the 2010 vvvveeeeee six legacy?? Shit, I want a v6 legacy, just to see what it looks like under the hood. It's little details like this that really need to make you question, is this a reputable product? Here's the homework I've done for you, I've gone through every model here and looked up its MAF part number. This should be all the information you need, not pictures. 2008 Impreza - 2.5i H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA3802008 Impreza - Outback Sport H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA3802008 Impreza - WRX H4 - 2.5L - EJ255 - 22680AA3802008 Impreza - WRX Limited H4 - 2.5L - EJ255 - 22680AA3802008 Impreza - WRX STI H4 - 2.5L - EJ257 - 22680AA3802008 Impreza - WRX STI Limited H4 - 2.5L - EJ257 - 22680AA3802008 Impreza - WRX TR H4 - 2.5L - EJ257 - 22680AA3802008 Legacy - GT Limited H4 - 2.5L - EJ255 - 22680AA31A2008 Legacy - GT Spec.B H4 - 2.5L - EJ255 - 22680AA31A2008 Outback - 2.5i H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2008 Outback - 2.5i Basic H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2008 Outback - 2.5i Limited H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2008 Outback - R LL Bean Edition H6 - 3L - EZ30D - 22680AA31A2008 Outback - XT Limited H4 - 2.5L - EJ255 - 22680AA31A2009 Forester H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA3802009 Impreza H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA3802009 Legacy H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2009 Outback H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2009 Impreza - WRX H4 - 2.5L - 22680AA3802010 Outback H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2010 Forester H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA380 transition year, but EJ+FB engines use same MAF sensor2010 Impreza H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA3802010 Legacy H4 - 2.5L - EJ253 - 22680AA38A2010 Legacy V?6 - 3.6L - 22680AA38A I could not see where Subaru may have offered a V6 version of this vehicle, so I selected the H6. So... the Impreza, including the wrx and sti, along with the forester use the 380 MAF. The turbo legacy/outback and 3.0L flat six use the 31A MAF. The Non-turbo Legacy/Outback uses the 38A MAF. The 380 and 38A look interchangeable, but as someone said previously, the 31A is a mirror for the mounting holes. All that being researched and said, for this company to say their MAF is compatible with that list of vehicles, is just a straight up lie. I can only imagine the rest of their information follows the same vein. I know that I can google that up and as I asked here that I just need a photo of that to be here in this post to use it as a proof to my case cause I'm planning to open a lawsuit against JET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitexc Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 I guess maybe I didn't follow from the get go but what happened to deem this worthy of a lawsuit? Were you injured or was there substantial property damage as the result of using a product with false claims? I'm not on your side or Jets or others on the forum....I'm asking because I know what my time is worth. Do your own research and more often than not, OEM parts work best. When you get into modifications and altering a vehicle, well then you signed the waiver that states your pocket book will be empty and it is no one's fault but your own. That is my opinion. You can leave it at the door if you choose. Sent from my SM-G996U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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