08SubieLegacy Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 So the AirBag light in the dash comes on and stays on pretty consistently now. I'd like to fix this. Are there any common causes to the problem that I should check? Also, it looks like the cheapest AirBag code reader I can find is $130 on Ebay. Does anyone have experience with a good AirBag code reader that they can recommend to me? Car is a 2008 Legacy, with the 2.5 N/A engine, 108,000 miles. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gimpydingo Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Post 147 http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/airbag-light-sometimes-console-problemi-149073p10.html I tried this fix, didnt' work, got a new map light, still not fixed. Turns out my passenger airbag controller is bad, $500 part, $500 in labor. At least Subby Corp is paying the labor. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexi Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Try the solder fix in the link posted above, it has worked for a lot of people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SpecB_DE Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Find an independent shop that will scan it for you. If you live near Delaware I can bring my scanner home with me and scan it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SubieLegacy Posted August 2, 2017 Author Share Posted August 2, 2017 Thanks, I will try the solder fix before buying anything. Thanks for the offer 08SpecB, but i'm in Kentucky. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relative4 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Thanks, I will try the solder fix before buying anything. Thanks for the offer 08SpecB, but i'm in Kentucky. Sent from my SM-G930P using TapatalkUnless you just like wasting time and money, do not "fix" a problem you haven't diagnosed. Pulling the code is the only way to start. With a little savvy eBaying, you can get a dirt cheap price on a Launch CRP123, or hook up with a local automotive Facebook group or forum to find someone who'll let you use their scanner. P.S. a good scanner is an investment you'll never regret. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dispatch20 Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Unless you just like wasting time and money, do not "fix" a problem you haven't diagnosed. Pulling the code is the only way to start. With a little savvy eBaying, you can get a dirt cheap price on a Launch CRP123, or hook up with a local automotive Facebook group or forum to find someone who'll let you use their scanner. P.S. a good scanner is an investment you'll never regret. Fortunately, 95% of the cases for the Legacy SRS dash light can be diagnosed very easily. If the overhead/map light "airbag on/off" lights don't illuminate normally (i.e. half-dim or only half of the lights on), then it's 100% certain the issue is the solder joints in the map light, which requires 15 minutes and $0 to repair. Nearly every Legacy made from 05-09 will see this failure at some point after 7+ years and 100k+ miles. But if those lights always act correctly and display at the right brightness, then I agree that they will need to read the code to properly diagnose it. But for those 95% of cases where it's easy to diagnose, I think it would be a waste of time and money to bother investing in or tracking down an SRS code scanner. However, some recent examples of the SRS throwing a fault that required a code scanner are gimpydingo's example above, and another person who had messed up something with the steering wheel clock spring when they were swapping the steering wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
59ctd Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 I tried the solder fix on my 08 2.5i but no change. I agree with the above if the LEDs in the overhead console are dim then this is the easy fix to resolder them. Mine all of the lights appeared to function properly. What SRS scan tool(s) have people been using to diagnose this type of issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdcvg Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 Do any of the auto parts stores have these scanners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SpecB_DE Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 You can call and ask your local stores. I still think it would be worth calling a local independent and offer them $40 or $50 to just tell you the code. They would be dumb to not take that money for 5 minutes of their time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relative4 Posted August 4, 2017 Share Posted August 4, 2017 You can buy one for twice that from HF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdcvg Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 Do any of the auto parts stores have these scanners? I meant like advance auto will read Your CEL, will any parts places scan for airbag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerHartman Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I meant like advance auto will read Your CEL, will any parts places scan for airbag? I don't know of any, Personally. Other than a Dealer with an SSM System Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TylerHartman Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 I say Grab a soldering Iron and try to reflow them Contacts, It's worth a shot before spending money at the dealer getting it figured out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SpecB_DE Posted August 11, 2017 Share Posted August 11, 2017 Call around to local shops and see how much they will charge to just hook up and pull the code(s). It's going to be much cheaper than taking it to the dealer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobydrvr Posted November 5, 2018 Share Posted November 5, 2018 Resurrecting an old thread. I swapped my cloth seats in my 05 OBXT with some leather jobs I found in the scrap yard. One of the SRS plugs on the driver's seat list it's retaining clip when I took it apart so I tried zip tying it together. Buttoned everything up and the light stayed off so I figured it was an acceptable fix. Next day the light starts intermittently coming on but can be sometimes turned off with a power cycle. Now it just stays on all the time. I took the time to de-pin the the connector that was cut at the scrap yard and replace it with a good one. Now my airbag light stays on. My questions are these. Should the code reset itself if the condition is cleared? Do the codes "survive" a battery disconnection? Am I going to have to visit the dealer to get this sorted out? Worth noting: the Outback doesn't have the overhead passenger indicator like the Legacy does so no easy fix there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimothyOnline Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I pulled the code for my airbag lamp with one of these (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TL5PMLW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1). In my case, for Code 26, I re-soldered all four flat black resistors onto the passenger airbag indicator circuit board (inside the map light housing) and the problem was fixed. This video ( ) gave me an excellent walk-thru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimothyOnline Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 I swapped my cloth seats in my 05 OBXT with some leather jobs I found in the scrap yard. One of the SRS plugs on the driver's seat list it's retaining clip when I took it apart so I tried zip tying it together. Buttoned everything up and the light stayed off so I figured it was an acceptable fix. Next day the light starts intermittently coming on but can be sometimes turned off with a power cycle. Now it just stays on all the time. I took the time to de-pin the the connector that was cut at the scrap yard and replace it with a good one. Now my airbag light stays on. When I encountered this phenomenon with a driver seat side airbag module code I just cut out all of that connector business and just soldered the wires together. Problem hasn't returned since. I'm not paying $1300 for a new interior wiring harness plus $130/hr labor to rebuild the interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) Unless you just like wasting time and money, do not "fix" a problem you haven't diagnosed. Pulling the code is the only way to start. With a little savvy eBaying, you can get a dirt cheap price on a Launch CRP123, or hook up with a local automotive Facebook group or forum to find someone who'll let you use their scanner. P.S. a good scanner is an investment you'll never regret. One like this ? https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2VF1ER7479&ignorebbr=1&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleMKP-PC-_-pla-AUTOZON-_-AT+-+Diagnostic+%26+Test+Tools-_-9SIA2VF1ER7479&gclid=EAIaIQobChMImr3N__iF3wIVWMDICh2Tew1sEAkYAiABEgIkpPD_BwE Found this link to a tool in the other Air Bag thread, see post 245 here, https://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/airbag-light-sometimes-console-problemi-149073p7.html https://www.amazon.com/iCarsoft-i903-Diagnostic-Multi-System-compatible/dp/B00TL5PMLW?tag=viglink20901-20#customerReviews Edited December 4, 2018 by Max Capacity 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djemzine Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 I pulled the code for my airbag lamp with one of these (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00TL5PMLW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1). In my case, for Code 26, I re-soldered all four flat black resistors onto the passenger airbag indicator circuit board (inside the map light housing) and the problem was fixed. This video ( ) gave me an excellent walk-thru. Product is currently unavailable. May I ask how much you paid in $USD? I live in Canada. I also fixed that problem with the MAP light, but I have two others codes. LH Buckle switch failure and ODS (passenger side) Is it worth fixing these? My OCD is kicking in a little. Should I get it from the wreckers? These are the airbag stuff that I may need: 1) Airbag rear harness along with body harness 2) Occupant detection harness (seat harness) 3) Occupant detection system (Seat cushion and frame assembly) 4) Airbag control module (in the center dash where the AC controls are) 5) Seat belt buckle switch https://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/do-these-airbag-codes-mean-276441.html?t=276441 http://i67.tinypic.com/aktu1i.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimothyOnline Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Product is currently unavailable. May I ask how much you paid in $USD? I live in Canada. ??? Amazon is currently showing 8 iCarsoft i903 units in stock. Try accessing the U.S. site (use an American VPN to do it if necessary). I paid $130 USD ($173 CAD) for mine. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08SubieLegacy Posted December 5, 2018 Author Share Posted December 5, 2018 Well I haven't fixed anything yet causing my light to come on. My light actually went off in it's own and hasn't been on for more than a year. Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimothyOnline Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 Well I haven't fixed anything yet causing my light to come on. My light actually went off in it's own and hasn't been on for more than a year. Sent from my SM-G930P using TapatalkThe air bag lamp still comes on for a few seconds at startup, yes? Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djemzine Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 ??? Amazon is currently showing 8 iCarsoft i903 units in stock. Try accessing the U.S. site (use an American VPN to do it if necessary). I paid $130 USD ($173 CAD) for mine. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djemzine Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Wondering if this ODS will fix one of the codes that I have. Code 27 - ODS communication error. Found it in a wreckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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