Dr. Photo Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 (edited) Dr. Photo, are you new around the forums? I've only seen you recently and you've been making leaps and bounds of discoveries for our generation Legacy's. Thanks for that. I joined when I first got the Legacy about two years ago, but only lately decided to really get crazy with mods and start trying things out. That's when I started posting. I kind of got tired waiting around for the "you try this first and we'll follow suit attitude," and figured, "all these guys are probably old farts [emoji13] so why don't I try to make some waves." Seriously though, I know a lot of people on this forum have other financial and scheduling obligations like families to feed so I figured I'd put my money into it since I have no financial obligations and test my ability to mess with things. Thanks for the recognition by the way! I'm in it just the same as all of you guys. I'm just one guy on this forum. My knowledge is only as good as the information I get from all of you, honestly! All for the love of the Legacy baby! Edited August 13, 2016 by Dr. Photo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Photo Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 Aotus, sorry for the snappy post. I actually appreciate all the feedback you've given on this post already. It's been helpful and positive. I just truly get irked when someone shuts something down without trying all alternatives. It's just the mad scientist in me! Sent from my SM-N915P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Photo Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 It's obviously very close to working, you may just need some adjustable end links to get the fitment right. End links are adjustable. I do think it may be the bushings. It rained today and the bushings were creaking. That along with the ever so slight crushed shape lead me to think they are trash or installed wrong. I'll get the bar off tomorrow and reinstall it. Hopefully I'll remember to take measurements of the stock and aftermarket bars and compare. Sent from my SM-N915P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GicleeOneDotCom Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Are you voiding the warranty by modding the front or rear sway bar? My dealer says yes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Photo Posted August 13, 2016 Author Share Posted August 13, 2016 I don't know the answer to that. If I had to guess, I would say no though. Anyways I'm at 45k miles so I'm good to go. Sent from my SM-N915P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger73 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Are you voiding the warranty by modding the front or rear sway bar? My dealer says yes. Obviously manufacturers warranty does not cover any parts you add/change on your car. Though you'll get warranty on the part that you purchase and if you get it installed by a workshop they should warrant their work if there's any issues related to the installation. So yes the dealer is correct that the vehicle manufacturer warranty no longer applies to the part that you change. Though if your air conditioner stops working it will still be covered as changing your sway bar doesn't void the warranty on the whole car. Tigger73's MY15 2.5i build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GicleeOneDotCom Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Well I had mine into the dealer for an oil change and I asked if they would swap the stock rear sway bar for a 20mm. Was told they wouldn't do it because it would void the warranty. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexi Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 It's one thing for a dealer, or a shop to install parts that were designed to fit your car. I wouldn't expect them to install the 20mm sway bar for a sti on a legacy. I wouldn't do that for a customer either, too much liability involved in my eyes. As far as warranty goes, I can't see a sway bar from another car completely voiding your cars warranty. However if you experience any type of suspension issues, or anything that could be related to the suspension, they'll probably say you're out of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opie Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 I won't void your warranty, period. The 20mm STI bar will not ne covered by any warranty, nor will any parts that fail due to the 20mm bar. But your warranty will still be intact. My advice, buy and install the 20mm bar yourself, no dealer will be the wiser, it looks exactly like the OEM bar, just a slight bit thicker... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger73 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 OK so how many people have fitted up bigger 19-22mm rear sways bars? And how many have had problems? I'd almost say zero for rear sway bars particularly those that are upgrading to the Forester/STI 19/20mm bars with stock end links. The issue with the 24mm front bar Dr Photo has installed is that it really wasn't designed to fit the Legacy and is suspected to be slightly different design - hence the clearance issues. Either that or it's been installed upside down or not centered properly side to side. I respect him for trying something that others haven't done yet. And yes he's going into unchartered territory though everyone else will hopefully benefit from his experience once he gets a set-up that works. Tigger73's MY15 2.5i build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apexi Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 OK so how many people have fitted up bigger 19-22mm rear sways bars? And how many have had problems? I'd almost say zero for rear sway bars particularly those that are upgrading to the Forester/STI 19/20mm bars with stock end links. Here's the thing though if that was partially directed at me. Dealers don't know that, and probably wouldn't care either. I would imagine it's just not worth the risk to them. When I said I wouldn't install it for a customer either, that's knowing what the service department knows. Basically, someone wants to put something from a different car, on their car? No, sorry, we can't do that. That's why for that kind of thing, you have to find a subaru specialist who might be more comfortable installing it, or DIY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieGT Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Apexi has a point, I called my local Subaru dealer for a price for the rear 20mm STI swaybar, and in conversation I brought up that it was going in my Legacy and he immediately said that he can't say that it'll fit EVEN if it will. They're scared sh!# when it comes to modifying cars Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger73 Posted August 13, 2016 Share Posted August 13, 2016 Yes my local Subaru parts department are more than happy to sell me parts for my car but will direct you to the local independent specialist for fitment - even though it's a Subaru part going on a Subaru. I understand from a liability point of view the dealer can't be putting the "wrong" part on your car. There's quite a few workshops that won't install a part unless they are supplying the part also. I get this as the workshop has no control over what the part is or where it has come from and/or even if it's the correct fitment for your vehicle. Tigger73's MY15 2.5i build Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I respect him for trying something that others haven't done yet. And yes he's going into unchartered territory though everyone else will hopefully benefit from his experience once he gets a set-up that works. You don't learn anything if you don't try new things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Photo Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Stock front sway bar measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Photo Posted August 16, 2016 Author Share Posted August 16, 2016 Dr. Photo, could you post a pic of the stock front sway bar and take a few measurements? Like overall width, end link mount to end link mount, and distance from the main shaft out to the end link mount? http://www.challengepromotions.com/Wills/bar.jpg Measurements are up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NNJLegacy Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 So what ever happened to this discussion? Was reading with anticipation as I also have a 2015 Legacy 3.6R and like DR Photo am now looking to start modding her... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFloSubie Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 We need to revive this, I know Robbie sold his Legacy and got a Camaro, but other than that I don't know what the rest of these guys are up to. I am currently considering a 24mm RSB and would like something tight up front to balance everything out; unfortunately outside of a STB I haven't found much luck with regards to modifications to stiffen up the front suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grnlantern1 Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 We need to revive this, I know Robbie sold his Legacy and got a Camaro, but other than that I don't know what the rest of these guys are up to. I am currently considering a 24mm RSB and would like something tight up front to balance everything out; unfortunately outside of a STB I haven't found much luck with regards to modifications to stiffen up the front suspension.I've been modifying Subaru's for several years and find the Front doesn't really need upgrading it's more the Rear.. With the Size and Weight of the New Gen I recommend either Perrin or Whiteline 22mm Adjustable Swaybars with Kartboy Endlinks.. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFloSubie Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 With the Size and Weight of the New Gen I recommend either Perrin or Whiteline 22mm Adjustable Swaybars with Kartboy Endlinks.. I have an Outback (BS Chasis) that I will eventually be lowering to legacy height, maybe a bit lower. I'm leaning more towards the 24mm because of the added weight in addition to my driving style and the roads I drive on in my area. Maybe one day I can get around to a few autoX races for shits and gigs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grnlantern1 Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 I have an Outback (BS Chasis) that I will eventually be lowering to legacy height, maybe a bit lower. I'm leaning more towards the 24mm because of the added weight in addition to my driving style and the roads I drive on in my area. Maybe one day I can get around to a few autoX races for shits and gigsThe 24mm would probably be a Great Size for the Outback.. Sent from my SM-G965U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FastButReliable Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 The 24mm would probably be a Great Size for the Outback.. Sent from my SM-G965U using TapatalkIf you get too big with the rear bar without increasing the size of the front bar, you could end up with over-steer which could become dangerous. Sent from my moto g(6) using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aki334 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 gentlemen: I think our cars have serious problems with front end if you do not believe me try driving from Colorado using I -70 east in November/December with cross winds. You will not be able to drive faster than 65mph. And you will notice all other cars pass you by like they do not feel crosswinds at all. I tried to search "legacy crosswinds" and quickly noticed that WRX's, outbacks, foresters are complaining for same problem. Don't they have crosswinds in Japan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ammcinnis Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 gentlemen: I think our cars have serious problems with front end if you do not believe me try driving from Colorado using I -70 east in November/December with cross winds. See: https://legacygt.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5933697&postcount=96 "If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there." ~ The Cheshire Cat (Alice in Wonderland) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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