BoxerGT2.5 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 God I hope Toyota Keeps the RE92's. We love them! OBAMA......One Big Ass Mistake America! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I don't know, but I would definitely prefer to have Toyota rather than GM influencing FHI. +1 Could be better for us than GM . Maybe some better things with Toyota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakuun Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I read one article that makes it sound that way, read another one that said quote un quote that FHI ended the partnership.. Of course GM and American publications are going to spin it their way.. I honestly think it was FHI.. either way, it was a good move and I'm glad for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCdob Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Toyota will bring Hybrid tech into play with subaru. Thas why everyone wants to get down with Toyota. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Cool- Twin turbo boxer powered Supra clone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eles1 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Cool- Twin turbo boxer powered Supra clone! Or an AWD Echo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fzanetti Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Or even maybe a hybrid line of Toybarus!! heheheheehehh Flavio Zanetti Boston, MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The B4 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Source? [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claw Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 God I hope Toyota Keeps the RE92's. We love them! They use RE92's too.. my Celica had them.. their Camrys use them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I actually think they'll go w/ 2. Toyota only has a ~10% stake after the sale of the leftover stocks. They will actually be looking to codevelop the next generation of hybrids. Subaru will use Toyota's hybrid technology,and Toyota will use Subaru's new Lithium batteries IN the hybrid technology. I'm sure the companies will stay far apart w/ everything else. This will definately boost the value of Subaru, w/ stockholders knowing that Subaru is Toyota-backed now, at least a little bit. Def. better than being backed by a sinking ship, that's for sure. This will pan out to be pretty interesting I must say... This would make sense. Toyota is the Hybrid leader and the batteries are the bottleneck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twisted Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I don't know, but I would definitely prefer to have Toyota rather than GM influencing FHI. i'm not so sure thats a good idea cuz toyota honchos tend to go conservative in terms of styling which means that future subaru products could be very bland plus toyota recently cancelled the Matrix and celica ofr next year ...those were the only 2 sporty offerings they had in the first place...instead they shud have gone back to toyota rally days and slapped the celica with an awd and a turbo...now the sportiest thing u can get from toyota is the ...um corolla???!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakuun Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Toyota will own what? 8% of FHI's stock.. It's not a 50/50 merger.. I don't think Toyota is going to have much say in Subarus market direction and vice versa, and even less say over model offerings. I take this as a partnership to help Subaru develop their alternative fules solutions, as well as market their battery technology. Both are priority items for Subarus R$D teams right now. At the very least this partenrship sounds like a two way road, where as GM was all one way, and on a dead end at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mach_six Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I would suspect this is for sharing hybrid technology. Why design your own when someone's already got it working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QTwo Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Source - CBS MarketWatch headlines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don9992 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 So I am guessing the 92x is permanently dead then too? According to the article: "GM will continue work with Fuji on one production vehicle, the Saab 9-2x, GM said. But other projects will end, including the joint development of a crossover vehicle, announced last year." I guess the "Saabaru" lives for now, at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melayout Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp?guid=%7B18917D34%2D8BB2%2D404F%2DBA8A%2D972E93065C67%7D&siteid=mktw&dist I keed I keeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCdob Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Toyota will own what? 8% of FHI's stock.. It's not a 50/50 merger.. I don't think Toyota is going to have much say in Subarus market direction and vice versa, and even less say over model offerings. I take this as a partnership to help Subaru develop their alternative fules solutions, as well as market their battery technology. Both are priority items for Subarus R$D teams right now. At the very least this partenrship sounds like a two way road, where as GM was all one way, and on a dead end at that. Thats exactly what 9% will do. Hybrid is in high demand these days and from now on so every manufactuer is scrambeling to get 'er done. I know that Toyota has lock on Hybrid Tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Did FHI buy the 20% owned by GM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakuun Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 GM is selling around 9% to Toyota, and offing the rest on the open market. Now as I understand it, the move was mutually agreed to by both FHI and GM. Again.. Good Move!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt_ltd Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 hmmm... Lexus IS/GS STi... This Space For Rent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrasher Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 "Mother told me, yes she told me I'd meet girls like you. She also told me stay away, you'll never know what you might catch." Surrender, Cheap Trick. I am glad that for whatever reason FHI is no longer associated w/GM. Subarus are wonderful cars, of far higher quality in both engineering and construction than anything I've seen from GM. Didn't want my beloved Subaru tainted by its association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eles1 Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 i'm not so sure thats a good idea cuz toyota honchos tend to go conservative in terms of styling which means that future subaru products could be very bland Yeah. I hope the next Legacy doesn't end up looking like a Camry or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt_ltd Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 yes...the 92x is gone. http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/051005/autos_toyota_fujiheavy_gm.html?.v=2 " All joint projects -- including global procurement, technology exchanges and development of a crossover vehicle between Subaru and GM's Saab brand -- will be terminated except for Subaru's supply of the Saab 9-2x model, they said." This Space For Rent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nKoan Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 Yeah. I hope the next Legacy doesn't end up looking like a Camry or something. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nKoan Posted October 5, 2005 Share Posted October 5, 2005 I, for one, am incredibly happy about this new direction (as a big Toyota fan), but one thing that always chapped my hides was people seemed to think the GM/FHI deal was bad. It was nothing but good for Subaru. It brought Subaru money (from the Chevy Forester, Saab 9-2x, Subaru Justy), cheap parts that were still well made (not made by GM ), and penetration into markets they would otherwise be closed from. Subaru benefited 100% from the GM deal, but GM didn't fare as well, which is why they are selling off the stock at half the market value to Toyota. It was a business deal, not a technology deal, and in the world of business, Subaru came out on top of the GM/FHI deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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