michelino1968 Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 http://www.quattroruote.it/landing/2015/magazine-luglio.html?m=0&wtk14=cpm.newsletter.qrt.clubmotori.2015_06_25&Idtrack=4FC5FACEDDF9A89B81D5FF36FBDCE7BF => then scroll down to the lower part of the page, You'll find 42 photos of this new kid on the block....I saw it and must say...wow. Numbers of the top version (quadrifolgio verde): V6 biturbo, 510 hp, 0-100 kmh in 3,9 seconds, 600 Nm, rear traction. They say it's gonna be available from 01/2016 on...no pricing unveilled yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c-lo Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 258k miles - Stock engine/minor suspension upgrades/original shocks/rear struts replaced at 222k/4 passenger side wheel bearings/3 clutches/1 radiator/3 turbos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Yeah. That is some awesome shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penguin Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 I'll bet that car will be a lot of fun to drive 50% of the time. The other 50% of the time it will look fantastic sitting on the mechanic's hoist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Probably. I'd love an original Giulia from the 60s/70s. Gorgeous cars, awesome handling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Rumored 75k for the 510hp model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Car purchase plus $500/mo for unscheduled maintenance is build into the loan payments. Or maybe not. Is a modern Fiat/Alfa built worse than a Chrysler? Or by combing the two does reliability go down logarithmically? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Or maybe not. Is a modern Fiat/Alfa built worse than a Chrysler? Or by combing the two does reliability go down logarithmically? I think that both have had equal reliability and that the merger wouldn't change a thing on that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted June 25, 2015 Share Posted June 25, 2015 Damn optimists. You use napalm but you still can't eradicate them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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michelino1968 Posted June 27, 2015 Author Share Posted June 27, 2015 Seems they've had a lot of support from Ferrari on the turbos, engine electronics, traction and launch control etc. So it's more of an Alfa/Ferrari car...also regarding reliability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 Nothing is reliable these days. I saw a consumer report (or consumer digest) on the ten worst cars to buy. The Subaru cross trek thingy was on there, along with a couple of other Japanese cars. My Legacy has had more repairs than any car I have ever purchased new. My Chrysler 300C has had ONE warranty repair in it's entire life.....the cooled cup holder stopped working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 And it usually has to do with electronics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 And it usually has to do with electronics. Yes I agree, I personally feel all cars a loosing the reliability battle due to overly complicated systems......half of which are government mandated that they exist to "protect us". They can't run the government but they're in the car business . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KartRacerBoy Posted June 27, 2015 Share Posted June 27, 2015 It's some of that, but it's also the stupid screen that controls everything now. You have to wander through some stupid menu to turn on the a/c or change a radio station. And that system is connected to everything so when it goes wrong the car is dead. I yet to have a car with an indash screen and I'm not looking forward to the day I do becz pretty soon they will be in every new car, from the cheapest to most expensive. I remember the days that I didn't want electric windows or seats in my cars becz they broke so often. I now yearn for those days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelino1968 Posted June 28, 2015 Author Share Posted June 28, 2015 I've had VW OPEL SEAT TOYOTA and now SUBARU 5th gen. Except the latter (75000 km) all have run around 160-170.000 km in 7-10 years and only SEAT was a desaster, even though built on the same platform as The Golf I had before. Zero problems with Toyota, neither with Subaru (knock knock)...that's maybe because they were both built in Japan while the USDM version is from Lafayette (incl. Sub-supplier-chain) and costs half of what we pay over here? Subaru Toyota and Honda are no. 1.2.3 in almost every car segment here with regards to customer satisfaction and reliability. After 10 years 90% of the back-then-immatriculated Subarus are still regularly registrated...Best result of all brands . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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