TheMonaLisa Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Replaced my OEM clutch set up with a Southbend stage 3 daily (FJK1001FW-SS-O) which includes a steel single mass flywheel and a TSK3 on my 2006. The problem is that the clutch peddle is basically fully depressed before the the throw out bearing makes contact with the pressure plate. I believe this is cause the single mass is skinnier than the dual mass? Can someone please help me. I've searched but can not find the solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SBT Posted December 28, 2014 Share Posted December 28, 2014 Sounds like your SB clutch was meant for the DMFW, which is quite a bit thicker. How close to the floor are you before engagement/disengagement? - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonaLisa Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Basically at the floor. The clutch kit was a package that came with a flywheel. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ras06LGT Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Did you get the right kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Adjust clutch pedal engagement point. Look above the gas pedal for a threaded rod. Or it's not right for the car. Never heard of this clutch before. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonaLisa Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 I'm sure the kit is correct. Gonna call Southbend in the AM. Seems like a longer slave cylinder rod would solve my problem. Will check for the peddle adjustment, thanks. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonaLisa Posted December 29, 2014 Author Share Posted December 29, 2014 Anyone know if a 06 will fit the Goodrich braided clutch line listed for the 07+LGT/08-14WRX ? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 29, 2014 Share Posted December 29, 2014 Seems like a longer slave cylinder rod would solve my problem. Then it's not the right clutch for the car. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonaLisa Posted December 30, 2014 Author Share Posted December 30, 2014 Got it working. Removed the master, slave, line and bench bled the system outside the car. For some reason that I don't understand, they both must be perfectly level to be manually bled successful. Read about that in a clutch line install DIY on NASIOC. So there must have been air in my clutch hydraulics all these years and the slave being turned about during the clutch install must have allowed the air to enter a critical portion of the slave or reach the line... It doesn't exactly seem logical to me but that's the only explanation. Note - my clutch peddle used to deflate when I parked on hills. Aka the top half of the peddle travel went dead but would regain normal feel after driving for a bit. Must have been a symptom of said air bubble reaching a specific point allowing it to compress. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SBT Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Glad it worked out for you. Presumed that you had already bled the system so my bad for not suggesting that. And, that's quite the tranny dolly. - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonaLisa Posted December 31, 2014 Author Share Posted December 31, 2014 Took it for a drive today and it's all good. Pedal feel is very similar to stock with a tad more resistance. After parking on a hill it didn't want to go into gear at first on the cold start. Once it warmed up it was good to go. Whatever. Has a little bit of chatter between 2k-3k which I'm hoping will go away as it breaks in. Revmatch downshifts are absolutely amazing. Also installed Kartboy front and rear shifter bushings today that I will post about with picts. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabsx Posted January 4, 2015 Share Posted January 4, 2015 Wish I saw this thread earlier. Had same issue with wrx, reinstalled thr clutch about 5 times, thinking it wasn't aligned right. After about 4 hours of head scratching, I crack the bleeder and so after, it was all normal. Had to be air in the line like you! Enjoy it now:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonaLisa Posted January 4, 2015 Author Share Posted January 4, 2015 You have a lot of patients. Would have blown the car up after the second time haha Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted January 5, 2015 Share Posted January 5, 2015 At anytime during the removal, did you raise the slave cylinder higher then the line or level in the master cylinder ? 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonaLisa Posted January 5, 2015 Author Share Posted January 5, 2015 Believe I did rest it on top of the intake manifold to keep it out of the way so yes. Why?! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted January 6, 2015 Share Posted January 6, 2015 Fluid will seek it's own level. If you raised it higher then the level in the master cylinder, air from the top of the MC will transfer up the hose. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonaLisa Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 Is that disk on the bottom of the master cylinder a lever sensor? What for? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocinoman25 Posted April 19, 2015 Share Posted April 19, 2015 hows everything with your Southbend clutch? I have about 1k miles on it and it feels like stock...with the smfw it does seem that i may have to adjust idle as it like to dip pretty fast...maybe its driver mod? glad you got everything squared away...doing a clutch on this car makes me not want to do it again lol paired with the blast plates...its really great Follow me on IG @chefodiycarguy and @chefo.soriano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonaLisa Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share Posted April 19, 2015 To be perfectly honest I'm not loving it. It's very grabby. I don't have any engine dip but I find the smfy makes the engine quite rev happy. This paired with the organic friction material causes it to smell if I don't watch the RPMs in 1st and reverse. As much as pulling the trans sucks, I'm taking the clutch out again and having South Bend change the friction material to that of the endurance variant which should rid most all of the smell. Props to South Bend for having amazing customer service. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMonaLisa Posted April 20, 2015 Author Share Posted April 20, 2015 hows everything with your Southbend clutch? I have about 1k miles on it and it feels like stock...with the smfw it does seem that i may have to adjust idle as it like to dip pretty fast...maybe its driver mod? glad you got everything squared away...doing a clutch on this car makes me not want to do it again lol paired with the blast plates...its really great Do the blast plates really make a difference? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocinoman25 Posted April 21, 2015 Share Posted April 21, 2015 Effortless and super crisp shifts no doubt...definitely an increase in NVH...hope my 5 speed holds up for a bit...otherwise 6 speed it is...i beleive it does help...i hope it helps lol... Follow me on IG @chefodiycarguy and @chefo.soriano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 I have Blast Plates too. 13,000 miles with them. LOVE them. I didn't find an increase in NVH. If you have a LWFW that will increase NVH. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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