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Without looking up the big grey SMJ plug I have found 3 connectors that mate the front harness to bulkhead harness listed in the engine electrical system diagram. Connector F45 16 pin connector color listed as [*] my harness is white connects to bulkhead No. B62 Connector F2 20 pin connector Blue connects to bulkhead No. B100 Connector F74 24 pin connector Black (Turbo only) connects to bulkhead No. B200 Going to start cutting again.

Took a break and went to the junkyard to g ab swaybar mounting brackets off an 2002 NA forester, so I can mount my ej22t front swaybar to my ej22t front subframe tomorrow. The junkyard offered me $50 for the shell...

I didn't see it mentioned here, but Dom claims an average temperature drop of 5-10* across the board with this mod. I'm just still not sure I need it. Water methanol injection would be a better place to spend money first. That's where I want my lower temp dollars going.

I don't have that grey smj plug is the current holdup.

Yep I ended up pulling the entire body harness and bulkhead harness. I left the front harness for when I want to pull the engine. All in all it was that bad. I think the merge is much more difficult than getting the harness out so far. I'm pretty much stuck using PDFs and searching around to build my spreadsheet. All the swap threads have completely different harnesses from my FXT. The Auto TCU adds a ton of bulk too.

Another noteworthy comment. The Bryson merge harness thread uses a wrx harness with a big grey SMJ connector. Of course the Forester is completely different. I'll need to cross reference the smj plug diagram he used to the connectors I have. I have seen enough wrx - 04 fxt inconsistency to want to double check as I pare down. I need the Accel pedal circuit, O2, circuits and then I need to double check how I had decided to use the legacy MT only circuit to create the FXT MT only circuit. I think that's pretty much it. I need the front brakes, inner tie rod jamb nuts (woops lol), scoop and inner piece, battery, alt, power steering system. Drain coolant and washer fluid. Unbolt accessories for engine removal. I want to pull the diff, driveshaft,and trans. I think those are worth saving to try and recoup some money. I might pull headlights and tail lights. I kept cupholder and upper cubby. Kept most modules. Separated out heated seat wiring and have heated front seats. I hate scrapping these 16" wrx wheels, but unless I have a buyer with trade it needs to roll out lol.

To give a little insight into my spreadsheet I have been building it out in stages. I couldn't find a pinout I/O chart so I'm going throigh the engine electrical diagram to get all the pins, what they do , where they go, and what color. First pass was just to get all the pins. Then I sorted ascending to get them somewhat alphabetized. Then I went through getting the what they do and where they go. Now I'm going through legacy diagrams trying to copy circuits using the legacy sensors and harnesses. I should've done the last two steps together or have the diagrams printed. I let my wife borrow my second monitor never to be seen again, so it's too much back and forth with diagrams on one screen to be efficient and I'm looking up FXT diagrams twice unnecessarily now. Driving me nuts. And the Harness is just a bastard. I pulled the entire bulkhead and full body harness except door wiring.

Dear god this harness stuff sucks. I am in the process of alternating between removing tape and pairing down what I know I don't need from the 04 FXT harness and building a spreadsheet out from what I've labeled of the forester ecu. Although i'm getting burned out with each activity, it seems like building the spreadsheet from the two sets of wire harnesses is far less physically and mentally taxing than cutting up the harness. The pile of extra wire is growing and number of 98 legacy pins to look up is shrinking. It's like working in mud for my ADHD though. If I haven't mentioned already the 1998 legacy ECU uses 3 wire O2 sensors, but the FXT ecu uses 4 wire. I'm just using the entire FXT O2 wiring all the way to the ecu, but if you didn't have a whole donor car this would be something to consider. Also all the pinouts I can find for swaps are WRX's or imprezas 99+ I did find a 95-99 ej25d ecu pinout which was kind of helpful, but doesn't list all the info I want in my spreadsheet. I'm learning right away all the model years are going to have different wiring, so this spreadsheet will really only be useful to people swapping an 04 FXT auto ecu into a 98 legacy gt. Also this wiring is heavy AF, so I'm not going to waste time recreating the auto electrical circuits and keeping the TCU. I'm going to remove all that wiring during the merge. Also I'm noticing small things like the 04 FXT ecu wiring for the malfunction indicator lamp is controlled from the opposite polarity than the 98 lgt, so I will need to Take 98LGT connector B1-Black wire at cluster and instead of grounding it run it to Pin A17 at the FXt ecu. Looks like the cruise control wiring is too complicated than I care to want, especially considering It was deleted from the legacy already. ugh back at it.

04 Forester XT Bulkhead harness, Accel pedal, and ecu out. I just trashed the interior. Probably trashing the whole donor. It took me a little over 3 hours. It's nice to not have to worry about putting it back together LOL this poor Forester...

I like this concept, and it isn't new. Aviation horizontally opposed ICE use a crankshaft that has extra floating weights on each counterbalance. It's far more mass than you could ever fit in a pulley. To be fair those engines were 6 cyl with 4" bores and a huge turbo. Pretty cool stuff.

Actually yes, and voting is required.

Please refrain from options outside of the poll, thanks.

Poll: Which generation of Subaru Legacy is the best looking?

Might take a break and start hitting the car. Does anybody know if the hood scoop can be swapped over? Also does anyone need any Forester XT parts?

Building a spreadsheet since we got a random cold snap. The Forester ecu has 103 pins... I was able to use some gift cards and secure an oil control valve and timing belt water pump kit. I have a spare ej pulley. What I don't have is an sti cam sprocket tool, so its up in the air as to whether I'll do the timing during the swap at this point. Need more measurable progress.

Nice job! We're you able to locate that diagram you needed? I've been able to find some if you need the link. Sure wish I had my work somputet with the prodemand diagrams, but the factory stuff is ok. Just wastes too much time not being interactive like the Mitchell prodemand diagrams. Also I'm about to rip up this Forester interior and dash. How far back do I need to go to get the fuel pump controller wiring? Am I full gutting this poor Forester? Thank God it isn't a euro car...

It's gonna be a good summer for second gens :cool:

I haven't done much looking for swaybars, but I plan to give my money to whiteline for supporting the second gen with so many parts even still. I've had my 98lgt wagon slammed on cheap coilovers with an outback rear sway bar, the rest all stock and worn rubber on track at summit point for a track-cross winter event. It rolled over so hard and refused to rotate with all 104awhp lol I did turn a faster time than a mustang GT pushing hard enough to almost spin out on the long sweeper (winter time street tires required). I'm curious to hear how your OBW turns in and rotates with the new suspension! Please do share the new handling characteristics. I was thinking of throwing on just a huge rear sway bar and F+R strut bars with 04+ LGT front lower control arms for a wider track width. I'm curious how much front sway bar we need with our boats. What are your thoughts on just using a bigger rear sway bar to induce more oversteer? Wouldn't more roll in the front help set turn in? Or is our suspension so sloppy any help we can get and use things like tire pressures and sway bar adjustments for fine tuning? I have tracked the BC BR coils on my BRZ once and was really impressed by them. They feel much better on the street than cheapo eBay coils too. Even the hardest setting on BC omehow absorbs more shock than any setting on an eBay coil.

Don't worry the red stuff turns black too lol just give it more time

sounds like Iran's General Salami's announcement of the magnetic field covid detector that is 90% accurate... It would be comical how stupid our governments are if we weren't dying because of it.

Non stop busy day, securing storage unit and tools, and car from quite a ways away.

If you have long screwdriver just put your ear on it like a seashell if you want to diag before you get the stethoscope.

Alright starting to line ducks up in a row. Storage unit reserved and getting keys tomorrow am first thing then travelling to my tools to transport them and set up a quick shop. Travelling down to VA to get the Forester, then hoping to take the engine out by the end of day tomorrow. It has a bad oil leak by the oil control valve area. I went ahead and purchased one. The crank pulley looks shot so hopefully my other pulley fits fine. I assume they're all the same. It needs timing belt etc, but I'll catch all the maintenance up later. Can we do this in 30 days for the first month free storage unit??? Clock is about to start.

Funny you should mention that. I had the car on a lift so we ended up cutting a window in the frame RIP. Witnessing my certified tech buddy ruin that and the subsequent carnage has condition Ned me to start all bolts by hand no matter what at work. I don't turn as many hours, but I'll be damned if I'm gonna be that tech that just slams everything home as fast as possible. Those guys in my shop are clearing 6 figures, but I just can't bring myself to be that unethical. The more I learn about and having been in the field professionally now I take things much more seriously. Now being a tech we know what we can and can't get away with on our own cars, but I just can't wake up everyday and look myself in the mirror with work like I've seen from professionals

Even the ones that do have experienced people the info is not organized in any useful form. They would be great for events or news outreach, but as a repository of knowledge non forum social media is inferior and encourages young people to stop with the superficial stage 2 off the shelf knockoff crap they had to pay a shop to do. People can't even change their own oil or air filter because the pics for the gram don't get enough clout...