Vimy101

NYMEX unleaded was up 10 cents at one point today and is now up 7 to $2.30! That is a big increase as these things go. Must be some news but what it is I haven't heard.

It could very well be that a longer cool season in Canada placed less stress and duty on the fan relay which led to fewer or at least later failures. My car is in for the 30k service. ECM checked out fine. Relay being replaced.

Latest poll results are tending to be the slightly higher mpg numbers. Gotta love summer gas.

If gas hits $4, even Honda owners will modify their driving habits. BTW, noice avatar.

We should see some higher mileage results coming in with summer gas and high prices curtailing some high speed behaviors.

Spotted a silver LGT on the east bound NW Tollway with a licence plate that said something like "Clamity" which exited on Arlington Heights Road. That makes a total of about 5 LGTs and one Spec.B that I have seen in ~25,000 miles. I've have seen quite a few 2.5is though.

Hmmm.... so there are differences between various LGT ECUs.

A woman goes to her local pharmacy to buy some hair remover. The clerk says to her, "be careful if you go in the sun because this can cause chemical reactions and burn your skin." The woman says, "Oh I'm not using this on my legs." So then he says, "Well if you use this under your arms you need to let the hair grow out for a few days." Once again the woman says, "I'm not using it under my arms." So the clerk looking very confused asks, "Where are you going to remove hair with this?" The woman smiles at him and says, "My Schnauzer." The clerk rings up her purchase and after thanking her whispers, "I wouldn't ride a bike for a few days then."

^ My interest in this problem comes from my interest in long term maintenance issues that this bushing problem may pose. Members with modded engines may have accelerated a wear and tear issue whose solution may eventually benefit LGT owners.

Do we know that for certain? The mounting system might be the same but the unit is heavier and designed for even heavier power applications so it could very well have sturdier bushings and mounting points to match.

The 6MT is supposed to be a more robust unit by all accounts. The 5MT drive train doesn't seem to have a problem handling extra Stage I/II power but something is noisily protesting during cold weather. Perhaps the 6MT might not but that is pure speculation. My next prediction is that the noises will begin to reappear in 8 or 9 months.

You are covered under the emission systems warranty that runs 8(?) years or so. You should definitely contact the dealer about the part you bought. If they supplied the wrong part then I would think that you'd be covered. I am in the situation where I ordered and bought a new relay that's now sitting at the dealership just before the recall came out. So far, the car is running within spec. so I'm probably going to head the Sube of Schaumburg and see whats up (and pick up my ordered popits and drain plug gaskets).

I wonder if the 6MT Spec.s will have this issue. It's a heavier duty drive train and might have more robust bushings (if in fact that is the cause of the noise). However, I predict that most of these noises will disappear in about a month or so.

No. If the fans are running, it means the ECU has been damaged.

^ Sounds like you saw an 06 Spec.

^ Thanks Opie. :thumbsup:

^ You might add suspension mods.

^ Good point. Now we need a few members with OEM suspension Stage1/2 to check in and tell us if they have problem. I have no intention of lowering the Spec.B because I like the road clearance rally heritage influence. However, once the waranty expires, I'm seriously considering going at least to Stage 1 so I am interested to see what might be responsible. Also, when it comes time to replace the struts, etc. if bushings might not also become a RR item.

Dollars to donuts its the lowering.

I wonder if LGT numbers are sufficient to create profitable demand. I'm just guessing, but isn't the "growling" being reported primarily by modded LGTs? However, I would think that normal wear and tear on OEM ones would begin to create the noise over time.

Nice find.

I just did a quick count on this thread of the LGTs that seem to be having this problem. Most of the affected are 05s and most have undergone some amount of modding. One affected 06 owner also checked in.

^ I'm hoping that SOA is addressed this problem by installing stouter bushings in 06 and later model years. Any reports of 06s being afflicted by this problem?

^ I agree with the later. Oxidation and wear (age) are exacerbating the condition. Rubber parts wear out which is one of the reasons used cars are cheaper than new cars.