dark_rex Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 I was invited to a focus group for subaru owners this weekend. it was cool, because for basically an hour and a half of looking at concepts and interviews and answering questions, i got $125. anyways, there were basically 6 different "concepts" and a host of questions about just about every aspect of each one. all the concepts were debadged, silver, and had basically similar, if not identical wheels. the first thing i noticed, is that two of the "concepts" were existing cars (3 actually). this was confirmed (i guess) by the fact that most of the questions about the other three were about how innovative the look was, how sporty, how classy, etc. even how they matched up with certain car brands and how it would change (if at all) your perception about subaru. the three existing cars inlcuded a legacy (05/06), an accord, and an altima. the other three were true concepts. one of them was basically a ford focus front end, tagged onto a saab rear end (9-3 ish) it was cool, but didn't speak subaru at all to me, and was almost a hatch back b/c the cabin was so long, and the lack of a real trunk on the back (it was a trunk, but maybe only a few inches long.) there was an audi style rear end tagged onto an acura TL nose (these are general themes, not actually photo chops of the cars) the one i'm basically convinced was the new legacy, was also one of the best 2 looking there. imagine the new gen impreza headlights, centered by a more open, unobstructed grill area. there were no funky hood / grill elements that have the subaru enthusast community divided on the impreza. The rear had thin sort of trapezoidal lights higher up on the rear end, and the car basically looked a little beefier than the curent gen. it didn't necessarily look like a TL, but it kind of had a similar persona. it was def. more aggressive in stance and ride height. it was equipped with 18" wheels, and sat very low on them. i'd say, if someone tried to chop impreza lamps on the front of a leg with an RBS grill, you'd have a pretty good idea of the look (although the grill was taller top to bottom( the bumper and front of the car is "taller" meaning that there is more of a fascia presence than the relatively thin and flat nose of the current gen leg. too bad they didn't allow phones or cameras... i'd have loved to share. dR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorphien Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 take some drawing classes and report back with the results Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_rex Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 take some drawing classes and report back with the results +1 For drawing classes! DRAWING CLASS FOR THE WIN!!! Please...? Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWDxBOOST Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 thanks for the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rallispec Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 hood scoop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robsontuning Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 great info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_rex Posted January 7, 2006 Author Share Posted January 7, 2006 heightsgtltd I was called by a focus group company, not subaru. they asked if i still owned my subaru, and i said "which one". they said the group was to discuss subaru. no one at the place would say that though, which wasn't a shocker. also, many of the questions in the forms were subaru related. rallisport no scoop on any of the three obvious concepts. the 05/04 leg gt did have one. i commented on how much i liked it. heightsgtltd there were some interior option stuff discussed in my interview, and at another exercise during the session. i don't think it's valuable prediction stuff though, for example, all the options discussed the same level stereo, or a relatively similar transmission (4sp vs 5 spd), or power level (185 hp engine (no v6, 4 cyl or even boxer language). i think they were really focussing on styling, impression or price, etc. there were some obvious awd questions too (another subaru thing) dR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VXCL Posted January 7, 2006 Share Posted January 7, 2006 thats cool. im def set on picking up the next gen legacy in its 1st or 2nd year if it looks as good or nicer and performs as good or nicer MAYHEM #122/22 STS NNJR SCCA AUTOX4U.COM XENON RETRO GUIDE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red beast Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 did it look something like this? http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/423426/carconcept.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emorphien Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 did it look something like this? http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-10/423426/carconcept.jpg Wow that's just like mine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2hondas Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 dark rex! We dont see you on Clubwrx anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_rex Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 i got banned. Tim doesn't like me much, because i have an opinion. dR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 dark_rex: ^^^ I wanna hear this story! ^^^ It's your thread, wanna go off topic for a post or two? Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gargleblaster Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I've participated in exactly one consumer opinion/survey thingy. Turned out to be the latest Imapla SS. :barf: Founder - The Harry F. Johnson Memorial Fund Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SVXWRX Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 next Legacy spyshot? HAWT! http://www.culttvman.net/shopping/pics/HomerCar01.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_rex Posted January 8, 2006 Author Share Posted January 8, 2006 dark_rex: ^^^ I wanna hear this story! ^^^ It's your thread, wanna go off topic for a post or two? http://www.clubwrx.net/forums/showthread.php?t=126054 this is the thread that did it. Tim installed a bunch of new money making measures to the club, including requesting donations from users, and intellitext. he posted up asking people's opinions. i gave mine. Tim didn't like it: Bam. dR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LegGTLT Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 WOW! Tide > Tim... sorry, off topic... Anyways, let's hope there are some more people who went to these focus groups cause I'd love to hear more. Thanks for posting such a detailed post dark_rex on your little "group meeting". It's great to have inside info!!! Please PM joeleodee For All Site Questions. He is the acting Admin and can resolve anything related to LegacyGT.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red beast Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 we have a way at nasioc to turn off tellitext Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark_rex Posted January 9, 2006 Author Share Posted January 9, 2006 it's basically the opposite of this chop, which i've seen a few times. it's more of the current grill, and impreza lights. http://homepage.mac.com/futureofx/.Pictures/HOST/CONCEPTUAL/LegNEWNose.jpg dR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rfd425 Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 WOW! Tide > Tim... Yeah, I just read that thread, and that Tim guy seems like kind of a weiner (no offense to Weiner! ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NHLEG Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 next Legacy spyshot? HAWT! http://www.culttvman.net/shopping/pics/HomerCar01.jpg The Homer. One of the best Simpson's EVER - "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?" Some Homerism's: "Some things are so snazzy they never go out of style! Like tail fins... And bubble domes... And shag carpeting..." "I want a horn here, here, and here. You can never find a horn when you're mad. And they should all play `La Cucaracha'." Advisor: "What about a separate soundproof bubble-dome for the kids with optional restraints and muzzles?" Homer: "Bullseye!" "All my life, I have searched for a car that feels a certain way. Powerful like a gorilla, yet soft and yielding like a Nerf ball. Now, at last, I have found it." Edit: Oh yeah, 5 years, 12,692 posts and a former mod. WOW! I think you were qualified to voice your opinion too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkaresh Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 At focus groups they won't tell you who the sponsor was because this would bias responses. You can usually figure it out anyway, but the general population won't. I'm assuming that not everyone there was a current owner. Notice what other people were driving? Probably a healthy number of Altimas, Accords, Camrys. If they were showing you three themes, then officially no decision has been made yet, as otherwise conducting research would be a waste of money. Often what they'll do is combine bits of one theme with bits of another, in response to what people liked and didn't like. Did they ask you which details you liked and didn't like about each one? This is common. Designers hate it when the market research gets down to the detail level, though. They work best with broader inputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 I added the intellitext server for clubwrx.com to my hosts file pointing to 127.0.0.1 -- no more green links for me! I have a MASSIVE hosts file to block tons of ad servers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYNY Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 rallisport no scoop on any of the three obvious concepts. the 05/04 leg gt did have one. i commented on how much i liked it. dR you could've said how nice it'd look w FMIC!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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