Spec B Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Hmm...Buick Grand National - looks like it's really happening (and does not look too bad). http://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/buick/gnx/ns/buick_gnx_r34_ns_112612_717.jpg http://media.ed.edmunds-media.com/buick/gnx/ns/buick_gnx_f34_ns_112612_600.jpg http://www.edmunds.com/car-news/grand-national-gnx-and-t-type-are-returning-to-buick.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Coll but it can never be the game changer the originals were. Still cool to see though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrueWhiteBoy Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Unless they throw some kind of awesome turbo'd V6 in it and then say that it produces a lot less HP then it actually does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolksey85 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Good idea but they have some big shoes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattg Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Looks Caddy based. Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CL21376 Posted November 26, 2012 Share Posted November 26, 2012 Rear wheel drive, 4 door sedan, twin turbo V6 or V8, auto or manual. Could be a kick ass ride if the execution doesn't suck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Unless they throw some kind of awesome turbo'd V6 in it and then say that it produces a lot less HP then it actually does. LOL sure. What I meant by that was turbos are old news now in the automotive world. In the 1980s if you wanted to run fast 1/4mile times you had a v8 until the GN shut some mouths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Dammit edmunds. If you post renderings, SAY they are renderings. Basing it off the ATS huh? I already drove the current Regal GS. Nice car, nothing special though. I'm still waiting for the 2.0t manual ATSes to be released to test drive one. GM put a stop sale on them after the mags criticized the action of the shifter. They said other than that, it was better than the 3 Series. The ATS-V is rumored to have a tt V6, so that might be in the works for a GNX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated Too laff79 Posted November 27, 2012 I Donated Too Share Posted November 27, 2012 meh. just a marketing ploy due to name recognition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdisco Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2010-buick-regal-grand-national-124959.html?t=124959&highlight=buick+regal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 meh. just a marketing ploy due to name recognition. exactly. Buick should just come up with a new RWD 2+2 coupe and make a new name/image for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 If the ATS chassis is as good as everyone says it is, it seems like a smart move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark5032 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 How is a rear wheel drive Buick with a turbocharged V6 not worthy of being called a Grand National? The only issues I can think of are that the ATS platform is sort of a small car like the BMW 3 series, and is a sedan. The original Grand Nationals were a pretty large car, and it would have been better if the new version was the size of a Dodge Charger. Making it a sedan is probably necessary if they want them to sell. If they made the car with a solid AWD system, built the engine with a strong bottom end and kept the price reasonable, it could still be a game changer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 The GN wasnt a small car about 16.5 feet which is about a foot longer than the ATS will be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 How is a rear wheel drive Buick with a turbocharged V6 not worthy of being called a Grand National? You answered your own question: it would have been better if the new version was the size of a Dodge Charger. EDIT: 2 door But for sure NOT: If they made the car with a solid AWD system, random awd subaru TROLL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 The GN wasnt a small car about 16.5 feet which is about a foot longer than the ATS will be. And the GNs weren't all that big on the inside either. I was pretty cramped in the front seat of my buddy's 86. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 I never had a problem fitting in the front seat of a G-body car. The interior overall was not huge though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 That's cause you ain't as big as me! The new Charger is huge inside. I've been kicking around the idea of replacing the LGT with one in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero1 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 So far I see EXCELLENT idea, sub-par execution... Leave it to the current GM regime to (*&^ !@#$ up lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 That's cause you ain't as big as me! The new Charger is huge inside. I've been kicking around the idea of replacing the LGT with one in the future. That could be true, I am not that big but I am somewhat tall. I have test driven multiple chargers on multiple occasions and everytime the test drive has compeltely turned me off to the car. Have not driven a 2013 though. They were all used, some as low as 15kmiles and all of them made noises and had issues. One had 30k on it and needed ball joints and engine mounts(which the dealer offered to do) but at 30k miles those problems worry me. The first charger I drove was a r/t wit hthe 5.7 liter v8 because the dealer salesman said it would smoke my 2000 T/A which I was looking to trade in. That guy had no idea what he was talking about and I knew it as soon as I hit the gas pedal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoplightAssassin Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Yeah I've smoked RTs in my LGT no problem. I'll be building a family soon though and could use the space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark5032 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 You answered your own question: But for sure NOT: random awd subaru TROLL Answered my own question? What engine and drivetrain configuration did the Grand National have again? The original Grand National may have not had the most efficient use of space by today's standards, but was still a large car for its time. I am not really doing the "random AWD Subaru troll" thing here, just stating that it would be the best way to get the power to the ground. GM did that with the Syclone and Typhoon already about 20 years ago. I am struggling to think of another turbocharged, awd six cylinder car besides the GT-R, or other exotics around the 100k price range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark5032 Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 The Dodge Chargers that have under 30k miles are usually rental cars and have had the snot beat out of them. I looked at used versions for awhile before buying the Legacy and the Carfax almost always said "rental car". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 If you are going to make it 4 door If you are going to make it AWD (for FWD for that matter) If you are going to make it small Its not worthy to be called TType/GNX. And did you say you want a TT 6cyl? Look no further than FORDS ECOBOOST! Perfectly entitled to my relatively informed opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05GT Guru Posted November 27, 2012 Share Posted November 27, 2012 Answered my own question? What engine and drivetrain configuration did the Grand National have again? The original Grand National may have not had the most efficient use of space by today's standards, but was still a large car for its time. I am not really doing the "random AWD Subaru troll" thing here, just stating that it would be the best way to get the power to the ground. GM did that with the Syclone and Typhoon already about 20 years ago. I am struggling to think of another turbocharged, awd six cylinder car besides the GT-R, or other exotics around the 100k price range. Taurus SHO, Audi S4(older models of course). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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