Haight 05LGT Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 This doesn't require BAC5.2 levels of knowledge to straighten out. bigjweb, you're confusing cruising and coasting. You are not in boost when coasting (foot off the accelerator pedal). If you are cruising, you may be in boost depending on speed and incline. But I love the way that Bac breaks down noobs. So clean and precisely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourConfused Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 How good of a great deal and from where? If I may ask . I'm trying to find a "great deal" so I can appease my wife. Me 2. Well not the wife part, but I want the valet mode portion so when I drop it off for the alignment (do so quite often as it is the only thing I don't do to the car myself) I can know that those guys are not destroying my car while I am not looking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 You guys can think what you want. Generally when cruising on the highway, you are not in boost. Next time you take a drive, check it out. I said it before and i'll say it again, turbos only make boost when they are under load. Of course when you go up a steep hill the car is placed under enough load to create some boost if you push the accelerator further down to maintain the same speed. The fact that some of you guys are asking for another member to straighten me out shows that you do not possess enough knowledge to speak up on the issue. And fyi, BAC is not always an expert on every issue he speaks on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted October 20, 2012 I Donated Share Posted October 20, 2012 You guys can think what you want. Generally when cruising on the highway, you are not in boost. Next time you take a drive, check it out. I said it before and i'll say it again, turbos only make boost when they are under load. the fact that you guys are asking for another member to straighten me out shows that you do not possess enough knowledge to speak up on the issue. I have a boost gauge in my car. I have seen it go into boost while I had cruise control on. Nuff said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Your an idiot sir. Just because you have the cruise control on doesn't mean that the car isn't going under load at some point. When you use cruise control the car does what ever possible to maintain a constant speed. Try reading the posts a little more clearly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted October 20, 2012 I Donated Share Posted October 20, 2012 Just because you are cruising doesn't mean that the car isn't going under load at some point. ftfy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 You do not make any boost when cruising (maintaining a steady speed) on the highway. The engine will be under vacuum until you begin to accelerate Your an idiot sir. Just because you have the cruise control on doesn't mean that the car isn't going under load at some point. When you use cruise control the car does what ever possible to maintain a constant speed. Try reading the posts a little more clearly You don't see how you're saying two different things here? The amount of power required to maintain speed goes up a lot as you go faster. There's no arguing that. At some point in time, you have to apply enough throttle that you will generate boost. It really starts getting to that point when you go at or above 80MPH.... up a hill, heavy load in the trunk, you're overweight, you have fat passengers, you have a headwind, etc. Even without those factors you still have to overcome friction, wind resistance, etc. no matter what and it becomes harder and harder to overcome as the speed you're trying to maintain increases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 The first statement was very generalized. Perhaps the use of the word accelerate was a poor choice on my part. In that sense by accelerate I meant to increase the throttle (place the car under load) to maintain the constant speed, not to make the car go faster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted October 20, 2012 I Donated Share Posted October 20, 2012 The first statement was very generalized. Perhaps the use of the word accelerate was a poor choice on my part. In that sense by accelerate I meant to increase the throttle (place the car under load) to maintain the constant speed, not to make the car go faster. Here's what you said (emphasis mine): You do not make any boost when cruising (maintaining a steady speed) on the highway. The engine will be under vacuum until you begin to accelerate You generally have to vary the accelerator position to maintain a constant speed unless the highway is totally flat. And at least around here, totally flat highways do not exist. When are you going to admit you were wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 But I love the way that Bac breaks down noobs. So clean and precisely. You've got some nerve calling me a noob. 400 posts in two months. I'm sure you've offered so much insight and learned so much in your voyage to stage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Here's what you said (emphasis mine): You generally have to vary the accelerator position to maintain a constant speed unless the highway is totally flat. And at least around here, totally flat highways do not exist. When are you going to admit you were wrong? Admit I was wrong for a poor choice of words? Guilty. But as fas as trying to state that a turbo doesn't create boost unless under load. I was never wrong in that sense. Going back to the original dispute with Invar, he was saying that cruising at 80 puts the engine under enough load to always create boost. I disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted October 20, 2012 I Donated Share Posted October 20, 2012 Admit I was wrong for a poor choice of words? Guilty. But as fas as trying to state that a turbo doesn't create boost unless under load. I was never wrong in that sense. It's more than a poor choice of words. You said something completely different and you're now trying to say that's not what you meant. But hey, at least you admit that the thing you said in the first place was wrong... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 You do not make any boost when cruising (maintaining a steady speed) on the highway. The engine will be under vacuum until you begin to accelerate or the engine load increases to maintain that steady speed Is that more to your liking? Leaving my original statement, I added the bold words to correct the original statement so you guys quit crying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Admit I was wrong for a poor choice of words? Guilty. But as fas as trying to state that a turbo doesn't create boost unless under load. I was never wrong in that sense. Going back to the original dispute with Invar, he was saying that cruising at 80 puts the engine under enough load to always create boost. I disagree Wouldn't it have been easier and much more correct to just say, "You don't create enough load at cruising doing 80 MPH to generate boost" as opposed to what you said? Which basically says that you never create boost at cruising unless accelerating? Because then I would've just said, "I think you're right. At 80 there isn't enough load yet but maybe by 85-90 you'd have enough..." Sheesh. Anyway, when I get a chance I'll datalog cruising at 80, 85 and 90 and see how it is. Again, I want to remind you that even though the gauge reads vacuum, the turbo can still be generating boost pressure. If your engine's pulling -5 PSI of vacuum, and your turbo is generating 3 PSI, your gauge will read -2 PSI vacuum. That doesn't mean you're not boosting. Get a full vent to air BOV and you'll hear it vent during throttle off even with the gauge reading vacuum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haight 05LGT Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigjweb Posted October 20, 2012 Share Posted October 20, 2012 how's it feel to be a groupie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 How good of a great deal and from where? If I may ask . I'm trying to find a "great deal" so I can appease my wife. It's a hook up I cannot offer or give details to others. I am told I got near cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fahr_side Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 Ooh boy, another war of semantics. Obligatory '[URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/2008-gh8-238668.html?t=238668"]build thread[/URL]' Increased capacity to 2.7 liters, still turbo, but no longer need spark plugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flipapotimus Posted October 21, 2012 Share Posted October 21, 2012 It's a hook up I cannot offer or give details to others. I am told I got near cost. well dangit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 well dangit Sorry dude. I almost bought it at the full $600. It's certainly worth it. This offer sort of fell into my lap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted October 21, 2012 Author Share Posted October 21, 2012 Wow to the guys debating boost, did this get out of hand or what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted October 29, 2012 Author Share Posted October 29, 2012 Did the stage1 ACN. I noticed a good improvement on pull. seems the waste gate opens up sooner with less throttle input. MPG appears to be affected beyond 75mph. How can you load multiple maps and easily switch between them? The notion of unplugging and re-plugging of the green connectors sort of wastes any 'flexibility' the system has. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iNVAR Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 Realtime map. No need to mess with green connectors. Can even do it with car running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob-2 Posted October 30, 2012 Author Share Posted October 30, 2012 Realtime map. No need to mess with green connectors. Can even do it with car running. When I go to flash it asks me to connect the green connectors. What am I doing wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subieaction Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 You have to connect the green plugs together on the passenger side under the dash. Un connect when finished flashing over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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