NormanAbsher Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 so after looking around a bit i didnt find much but my question is.. when doing this swap is all that you change is the whole strut assembly? does anything else need to be swaped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 Bump Stops, you need LGT ones. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanAbsher Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 Ok well here is what I'm doing.. I'm actually going to be lifting my legacy.. So what should I need? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongzilla Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 You should find an Outback owner and swap parts with them. OB owners are looking to lower as you are looking to raise. I'm sure you'll need what ever is the oppisite in this post to raise your legacy. http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/info-ob-gt-suspension-geometry-removing-spacer-180579.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanAbsher Posted April 23, 2012 Author Share Posted April 23, 2012 I really don't think I need all that tho or do I.. He's got like a drive line and kinds of shit.. Don't I just need to swap the struts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kongzilla Posted April 23, 2012 Share Posted April 23, 2012 I'm sure you can get away with just swaping over the shocks/sturts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanAbsher Posted April 24, 2012 Author Share Posted April 24, 2012 Does anyone know the spring rates differences between the obxt and 2.5i ob ? Or of they do have a difference? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_pang2 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 Coilovers will help you solve your problem and although it is a Honda, I had it lifted an additional 1" using coilovers. The only problem I see is the angle the axles will sit now, putting stress on the joints, leading to premature failure but I do not think 1" will effect it that much though. My Honda is now sitting .50" lower than stock height now, not like the picture shown. http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m278/wai_pang2/IMG_3954.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted April 26, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted April 26, 2012 There is a slight difference in spring weight between the ob and xt, but I couldn't tell you how much. There's also a difference in spring rate between the auto/manual and the h6. At least the springs are different part numbers. All you "need" is struts, springs, and bump stops. I have no idea whether you will be able to get a reasonable alignment. KIM that the OB has body spacers to assist with suspension geometry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanAbsher Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 Yea well that's kinda why I wanna try it out.. Wrxs are doing it a lot with out problems using forester springs and struts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wai_pang2 Posted April 26, 2012 Share Posted April 26, 2012 In addition to what seabass07 said, an extention/longer steering wheel rod to the rack to make up for the additional spacer between the body and the subframe. I'm not sure what it's called though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted April 26, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted April 26, 2012 Just realize that the 05-09 stock ob struts are horrible. You might have better luck finding 03-04 ob suspension. At least you'll get the lift without your car handling like a boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanAbsher Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 You know I'm not sure about that... I doubt it would they run in to roughly the same problem with it being to long when they lower them... So I don't really know.. And wouldn't the wrx have the same problem when lifted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NormanAbsher Posted April 26, 2012 Author Share Posted April 26, 2012 Why only the 03-04? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted April 26, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted April 26, 2012 I don't know how much adjustment is available stock in the wrx suspension. The reason for the spacers is that SOA cheaped out. It was to correct a suspension geometry issue without making it adjustable. The problem is the lack of camber adjustment in the back and the limited camber adjustment in front. If you use camber bolts up front and adjustable rear control arms in back, you'll be fine. For the 03-04 OB, there was a front suspension redesign or something in 03. So the 00-02 front struts are not compatible. The rears are the same from 00-04. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Chaser Posted June 17, 2012 Share Posted June 17, 2012 Come to Colorado and I'll trade you! Make it a serious mod day. You know your legacy would look sweet on my xt suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 The obxt spring/strut assemblies are extremely hard to fit without the spacers installed, as the hubs do not want to droop low enough because the rear control arms will begin to bind. The issue is not as pronounced in the front, however, you may experience bump steer issues in the front, since the steering rack will put the tie rods at more extreme angles than a regular lgt because the subframe hasn't been dropped with the spacers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Chaser Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Is there really that big a difference between the chassis'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Users seabass07 Posted June 20, 2012 Mega Users Share Posted June 20, 2012 There is basically no difference between the chassis' other than the 1" spacers used to alter alignment on the OB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoobyscoodle Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Correct. The chassis is identical. You can put lgt struts on an obxt without removing the spacers, you just end up with less than ideal geometry. Putting obxt struts on an lgt without the spacers, however, is very difficult, mostly in the rear, and I strongly discourage it. My car was in an accident and declared a total loss. I had removed all the spacers and converted the suspension to lgt spec, with rce T1's. Insurance let me swap my oem stuff back on and keep my coilovers, so I did a quick and dirty job of swapping the oem stuff back on (not like the car will ever be driven again). In order to get the obxt shocks on in the rear, I literally had to take a bottle jack and wedge it between the rear hub and the inside of the fender, in order to extend the suspension beyond its binding point. It just needed to sit on the wheels and have oem parts bolted on for my purpose. I would in no way ever consider driving it in that condition. That is how I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snow Chaser Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Gotcha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAC5.2 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Correct. The chassis is identical. You can put lgt struts on an obxt without removing the spacers, you just end up with less than ideal geometry. Putting obxt struts on an lgt without the spacers, however, is very difficult, mostly in the rear, and I strongly discourage it. My car was in an accident and declared a total loss. I had removed all the spacers and converted the suspension to lgt spec, with rce T1's. Insurance let me swap my oem stuff back on and keep my coilovers, so I did a quick and dirty job of swapping the oem stuff back on (not like the car will ever be driven again). In order to get the obxt shocks on in the rear, I literally had to take a bottle jack and wedge it between the rear hub and the inside of the fender, in order to extend the suspension beyond its binding point. It just needed to sit on the wheels and have oem parts bolted on for my purpose. I would in no way ever consider driving it in that condition. That is how I know. The FSM has you doing that to get the struts in on the OB anyway. I finished up my suspension a few weeks ago. Bilstein HD's, JDM Wagon Pinks, and spacers to bring the geometry back in line. Plus the WL RCK and ALK and rack bushings. Zero bump steer, absolutely incredible ride now. Firm, but not harsh. And an appropriate ride height for OB sized tires. [URL="http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php/proper-flip-key-interesti-159894.html"]Flip Key Development Thread[/URL] "Genius may have its limitations, but stupidity is not thus handicapped." - E. Hubbard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RooTBeeR Posted August 17, 2013 Share Posted August 17, 2013 hate to bump an old thread, but i'm really interested in doing this also. so... Steering Rack spacers Bump Stops Struts Springs and??? whats the difference between the two on the control arms to keep from binding with the added height/travel? same goes for the axles? "Build" Thread <--Link (OLD) '05 EJ255 now a '13 EJ257 Bottom End w/D25 heads (NEW) Forever Slow [sIGPIC][/sIGPIC] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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