jherr Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Hey guys i've got a 2009 legacy gt and so far all i've done is put on a magnaflow catback. I'm wondering what would be the best thing to get next in terms of performance and the most bang for the buck. From what i've read it seems like an accessport would be the best option but they seem really expensive for what you're getting plus i'd have to get a downpipe in order to stage 2. Would it be better/less expensive to just get a new downpipe and get it tuned elsewhere? Any thoughts?? btw my budget is around $600, maybe $700 right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spun Muffler Bearings Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Up to you whether you take it to a tuner or do it yourself via accessport. Each method has its advantages. A really good tuner should easily give better results than the AP, plus they'll personalize it for your requests. Would your car pass the typical tuner checklist? Many shops post them on their websites. If it won't pass right now, you'll be spending part of your budget on catch-up work. You *should* use a similar checklist before self-tuning via AP. But you have the option of skipping it if you don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2.5GT_dude Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 My local tuner charges about $250 for the intial tune and then $75 for any tune after that. Cheaper than AP and precise. So its worth finding a tuner if you have one in your area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGT For ME Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 ^ thats pricey. If you have to ability/knowledge/confidence to flash the car yourself you can get a great etune for $150 for the first tune (full tune with several revisions) and less for subsequent tunes. There are many online guys that can do this: Eric w/ Torqued Performance (my tuner), Dave w/ Cryo Performance (great CO guy) .... I prefer a local road tune as I dont want to screw anything up personally but to each his own. If you want any contact info for those tuners PM me At a min, get your DP installed then look at Stg2 tunes, even better if you have e85 around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Capacity Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 My Tuner was less then that. http://www.tuningalliance.com If your good with a lap top you can buy a couple of cables and buy you maps from a Tuner and load them. Me, both my cars have Cobb AP. My Tuner loads the maps into the AP then uploads them in the ecu. He has had my 05 on the dyno but did street tunes before that. 305,600miles 5/2012 ej257 short block, 8/2011 installed VF52 turbo, @20.8psi, 280whp, 300ftlbs. (SOLD). CHECK your oil, these cars use it. Engine Build - Click Here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosAngelesLGT Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 He is 09 = pricey tactrix cable not cheapy vagcom iirc. For someone who doesn't know anything about RR, LV or tuning the car it might honestly be easier for him to get a CNT downpipe and AP. You can always resell the AP for 85% of its new value and can also load tunes onto it. Not the worst purchase but will push the total with install to nearly $1000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jherr Posted April 12, 2012 Author Share Posted April 12, 2012 So if I invest in an AP would I be limited to stage 2 upgrades only? Or are there maps I could load to go beyond that when the time comes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmorris6689 Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Buy a up and down pipe or sway bars you will feel a huge difference with sway bars. Or you could buy my six puck act clutch and light weight flywheel it's in your budget Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.hicksta Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 So if I invest in an AP would I be limited to stage 2 upgrades only? Or are there maps I could load to go beyond that when the time comes? You would have to get a custom map to go beyond the Stg 2 offerings on the AP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefRacer Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 He wont need an UP with an 09, he is already uncatted there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr.hicksta Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 He is 09 = pricey tactrix cable not cheapy vagcom iirc. For someone who doesn't know anything about RR, LV or tuning the car it might honestly be easier for him to get a CNT downpipe and AP. You can always resell the AP for 85% of its new value and can also load tunes onto it. Not the worst purchase but will push the total with install to nearly $1000. +1, and you're right LALGT, he'd need the Tactrix Openport 2.0 which is around $180ish if he went opensource. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefRacer Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 and BTW, you really don't want to use the stage II map on the AP anyway. A custom tune is a lot safer and will make more power/tq. My car was knocking up a storm on an AP "stage II" map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefRacer Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 sways http://www.infamousperformance.net/servlet/the-274/Hotchkis-Subaru-Legacy-GT/Detail DP http://www.infamousperformance.net/servlet/the-289/CNT-Performance-Subaru-Legacy/Detail adapter http://www.infamousperformance.net/servlet/the-393/3%22-Downpipe-to-Factory/Detail install it yourself and get an open source tune at a well reviewed local shop and you don't even need the cable. The installs are both relatively easy with some half decent tools. I'd say leave yourself an afternoon for either if you aren't terribly experienced, but it really isnt hard. A set of ramps will help you out a ton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChefRacer Posted April 12, 2012 Share Posted April 12, 2012 Oh, make sure to get the tune right away after the dp. You won't need a tune for the sways of course though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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