jasejase Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 lol... I remember loading up my old escort with nearly a half ton of crushed stone (bagged)... LOL 3 yards of stone, and a yard of sand would likely be 100-200 bucks around here. Delivered. Poured concrete would be easy, but pavers done right, look great. And you can replace one if there is breakage, etc. If you go poured, make sure they stamp it or do some kind of design. IMO at least... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 He said he didn't want stamped....cuz wiggly chairs. Pay attention. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasejase Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Then he also can't really have pavers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FJuan Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 He so poor that he can't even PAY for attention. My wife's balls are delicious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baconbits Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Not poor, just picky I could probably be talked into stamped but if it doubles the cost (dye, labor), then I'd probably skip it. The thing is, digging out a size that big is a lot of labor that I don't want to do, partly because I don't know how to get rid of it. If I pay someone, it's part of the deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted June 22, 2017 Share Posted June 22, 2017 Make a mounded planting area in your yard with the dirt but add soil amendments if it's clay. GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasejase Posted June 23, 2017 Share Posted June 23, 2017 GT, I like that idea. I think the prior owners of our house did the same thing. Came out nicely. I just removed my above ground pool. I had about 7-8 yards of gravel (around the pool) and sand base to remove. I was quoted about $400 or so for someone to come in, hand shovel it out, and wheelbarrow it to their truck and remove it. So, I cant imagine the cost of removing a yard or two of fill would be that outlandish. It's not that hard. Score the outline and remove the sod... then go down another few inches of soil. Heck, if the sod is decent, try to use it somewhere else. RE my pool - I ended up removing all the sand and clay myself, as my neighbor asked for the fill for a shed base... After that, I ended up moving 7 yards of top soil from my driveway to fill it all in. I was sore for a solid two weeks Remove it yourself, and put all the debris in a pile in your driveway and put a pic on CL of it, and ask for bids to remove it. You'll likely have it gone for $100 or less within the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baconbits Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Welp, reached out to three local concrete guys. Patio is going to be 16x12 with provisions (if needed) to anchor/build a pergola on top. 1. No quote, not even a rough guess until he sees the area/job. Made it seem like the job was too small for him. 2. $6/sqft for forming, concrete, and finishing. Add for excavation, gravel, and wire/fiber mesh. "I could maybe do the whole thing for around $1500 total." 3. $3-4/sqft for concrete, thinks the whole job could be around $1000 including excavation. I have the $6/sqft guy coming out today to see the area and get a formal estimate together. Working on getting the $3-4/sqft guy out soon. Does anyone know how soon after pouring that it's safe to build on it? Week? Two weeks? Three days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasejase Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Nice! Putting in a patio today/tomorrow at the house. 6x6 small patio for the grill, so it's not on the lawn (I don't want it on our new deck). Materials all in were about $210.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasejase Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Welp, reached out to three local concrete guys. Patio is going to be 16x12 with provisions (if needed) to anchor/build a pergola on top. 1. No quote, not even a rough guess until he sees the area/job. Made it seem like the job was too small for him. 2. $6/sqft for forming, concrete, and finishing. Add for excavation, gravel, and wire/fiber mesh. "I could maybe do the whole thing for around $1500 total." 3. $3-4/sqft for concrete, thinks the whole job could be around $1000 including excavation. I have the $6/sqft guy coming out today to see the area and get a formal estimate together. Working on getting the $3-4/sqft guy out soon. Does anyone know how soon after pouring that it's safe to build on it? Week? Two weeks? Three days? Nice! If I recall... A month to fully cure. But you can typically frame on a slab or footer the next day. Weather permitting. No set rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baconbits Posted June 30, 2017 Share Posted June 30, 2017 Yeah, I've heard the month rule for full cure (and thus full strength) but as far as building a smaller pergola (14x10x9 or so) isn't THAT much weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasejase Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Yeah full month but it's like 80-90% in a few days. I think as long as it's dry and solid you'll be fine. They don't wait when building a house! Ask the concrete guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigleben Posted July 1, 2017 Share Posted July 1, 2017 Let it cure for a week (70% strenght after 7 days IIRC both don't quote me on that) and keep it wet. Let it dry and it will crack in no time. I used old geotextile to keep moisture in when I did my garage floor last fall. You can basically walk on it after 24hrs if you're hurried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) Thursday I built a 14x14 deck at our mountain property. The wife is not a fan of camping which poses a problem. Since we don't have any structures on the property yet, at this point, unless she camps, she can't really enjoy our investment. So, my goal was to set up a camping situation that was as comfortable as possible as quickly and inexpensively as possible. I gave myself 1 day to build the deck so she could sleep comfortably and on level ground in the new roomy tent. It was ambitious and took much planning. Thankfully, 9 hours after I started, the tent was up, and I succeeded in making the wife happy. She had a great time and we got some hiking in on day two. AND...the most important thing...she can't wait to go camping again! The Fozz did a fantastic job towing 30 2x6x14 deck boards, all our camping gear, a generator and all the necessary tools 120 miles across the Central Valley and 5000 feet up into the Sierras. The rest of the lumber and concrete piers were delivered to the site by the local lumber yard. Here is the build. And the result. The front and rear trim (skirt) boards went on the next morning and here is the final result...with chairs on the porch. Next up...the camping shed....so I can go skiing in the winter and can spend the night and have insulated shelter for hitting the slopes early. Edited July 2, 2017 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasejase Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasejase Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Finished a grille patio ... The grill will not go against house. Lol (you can see wave in siding from prior owner!) Pain in the ass. I dug too much out. Ended up with 8" of base and 1-2" of sand. 1.5 day job somehow. 85% friggin humidity didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasejase Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 GT, is that a neighbor next to you guys? I wasn't expecting to see a neighbor there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Finished a grille patio ... The grill will not go against house. Lol (you can see wave in siding from prior owner!) Pain in the ass. I dug too much out. Ended up with 8" of base and 1-2" of sand. 1.5 day job somehow. 85% friggin humidity didn't help. Overheating the siding of the house is a pretty common mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasejase Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Yep.. I didn't want to put the patio extending any further, and infiltrate the backyard anymore, as we have a four year old that uses every square inch of it! So we'll either set it up so my back is to the siding, or put it perpendicular to the house, which is how we've been doing it there, with no issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baconbits Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Concrete contractor flaked out on coming out for a quote yesterday. Have another guy stopping out tomorrow supposedly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brady Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Why don't you just sleep in the perfectly good house behind the tent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) GT, is that a neighbor next to you guys? I wasn't expecting to see a neighbor there! It is. These are approx. 1/2 acre lots. Ours is one of the bigger ones, kinda pie shaped, about 175' deep and 200' across the back, and all the homes on our side of the street back to hundreds of square miles of Sierra Pacific timberland in the Stanislaus National Forest and Big Trees State Park, permanent and protected open space. It backs up to total wilderness. We actually have an existing home/cabin on either side of us, and 2 across the street, but they are vacation homes, not full time residences. We liked that there will be no future development surprises being that there are no vacant lots around us that may be built on in the future and we can situate our eventual home such that from inside the house we won't see any other homes and the best view will be unobstructed looking out at the forest. We also wanted space but didn't want acres of land to take care of....if we want acres, or limitless supplies of fire wood, all we have to do is walk out into the forest. Edited July 2, 2017 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated thefultonhow Posted July 3, 2017 I Donated Share Posted July 3, 2017 Overheating the siding of the house is a pretty common mistake. Did it in the rental townhome. They didn't take it out of the deposit. Our house has aluminum siding, so that won't melt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 Did it in the rental townhome. They didn't take it out of the deposit. Our house has aluminum siding, so that won't melt. But you never know what happens behind the siding then, because that's what Greenfell Tower had with polystyrene behind it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTEASER Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 (edited) The question here is...why are so many of you morons using your grill within a foot of your home? Seems pretty sketch to me.. Out here in hot, dry, anything-can-catch-on-fire-at-anytime California, even most of the meth heads know that's not a good idea. Edited July 3, 2017 by GTEASER GTEASER's 2012 Legacy GT - Sold GTEASER's 2009 XTeaser - Sold GTEASER's 1992 Legacy SS - Sold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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