severedevil Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 ok so the belt broke last night after a good 2-3weeks of solid perfect running. now i try to start the car and nothing, .. i imediatly looked the engine over because its always fired up. so i look it all over, nothing wrong. tried to start again. nothing. so i look in the crack on the timing cover and the belts nowhere to be found. it didnt break while driving must have broke while starting,. what are the chances the valves didn't get bent? might i just need a new belt or am i gonna need to replace the valves? yes i guess the chip in the 1 cam sprocket fucked up the belt. im not good at listening i gotta learn the hard way i hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overspool Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Perform a leak down test and find out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severedevil Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 um never done one. how do i do one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 is this a 97 lego ej22? i'd just hang a new belt and see how it runs. you might get lucky. what work did you do ''2 - 3'' weeks ago?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severedevil Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 2 weeks ago i replaced head gaskets, intake valves, and belt. but while i was tightening the cam sprocket for the driver side ex cam a buddy of mine decided to hold it in place with a crow bar while i was tightening it and cracked a tooth on the cam. i didn't think much of it, it was a small chip and wasn't very big and i was warned but suborn me didn't listen. i just got back from the junk yard, there was a legacy outback with a 2.5 in it, the cam sprockets were in perfect condition along with the belt idlers and waterpump, the belt still had the markings and writing on it, looks like it was all just replaced. what luck!!! so i took the waterpump and belt n idlers and timing cover. now the motor looks identical. the 97 outback and 97 legacy motors r the same right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 only if they both have 4 cam sprockets. the outback is / should be an ej25. the legacy L is / should be ej22. the legacy GT is / should be ej25. the ej22 and the ej25 do not use the same timing belt. but all other timing components are the same for 1999 and earlier. later in phase 2 engines, 00 - 01, the ej22 and the ej25 used the same belt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severedevil Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 ok i took it apart. the tension idler was the problem. the bolt broke and it was kinda just hangin there. the belt was half on half off..... basically with no tensioner... ive got pics gemme a sec to upload Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severedevil Posted December 30, 2011 Author Share Posted December 30, 2011 http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150499779849643&set=a.10150392650379643.378289.621144642&type=1&theater http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150499782844643&set=a.10150392650379643.378289.621144642&type=1&theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted December 31, 2011 I Donated Share Posted December 31, 2011 "this content is unavailable" error on your pictures. If you have a 97 Outback (should have the EJ25D 2.5L DOHC engine unless its been swapped out), your valves are trashed. I hate to be the person who gives you bad news, but you're probably looking at some major work ahead of you. Like its already been said...do a leakdown check. Google it. If thats something you don't think you can do, buy a compression tester and do a compression check. That will also tell you if you did engine damage. Both checks are pretty standard...so info on how to do them is easy. -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severedevil Posted January 1, 2012 Author Share Posted January 1, 2012 Ok the bolt came out and I tried to turn it over after I got it back together and timed. The one side of the motor fires but the other side won't fire. So it wants to start but won't. Now the timing on the Pass side was good so i gonna do a comp test On that side to see if it's good. The driver Side has to be shot. So I'll be replacing that and if the pass side is shot I'll do that one to or else it will b okB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severedevil Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Ok 5 bent intake valves! No bad exhaust. I'm kinda interested in why? This is the second time I'm replacing the intake valves. Only 5 this time. But why only intake? I meen I'm glad because there cheaper.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overspool Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 It probably hit the intake valves and the motor stopped turning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subikid90 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 It probably hit the intake valves and the motor stopped turning. This -Subikid90 1997 Legacy GT 5spd & EJ251 w/EJ25D heads ~10.5CR 1998 Legacy GT Limited waiting for EJ22T hybrid swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
severedevil Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 ok well i got the intake valves replaced. now somewhere along this process one of the plastic black half circle head-cam whatever pieces went missing. im not sure what to call them but adv auto couldn't find one nor Napa or auto zone. is this a dealer part? could i just slap something in place of it with some gasket sealer or permatex? the part is about 2in in diameter, about half inch thick and a half circle located in the back of the head twards the firewall at the end of both camshafts. (on the head) maybe even some duct tape? lol ducttape is LEGEN..................... wait for it............. DARY! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subikid90 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Those are cylinder head plugs/rear cam seals. It is a dealer only parts and the bad news is they are like 8 bucks a pop. Part number is 11051AA070 -Subikid90 1997 Legacy GT 5spd & EJ251 w/EJ25D heads ~10.5CR 1998 Legacy GT Limited waiting for EJ22T hybrid swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecBamf41 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 you could make your own. its needs to be a plastic that likes heat and pretty firm. otherwise a dealer ship can get you one. most subarus use them cause its part of the manufactureing process for the cam jornals. BNR18g on 93oct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Donated broknindarkagain Posted January 3, 2012 I Donated Share Posted January 3, 2012 Making your own is a catastrophically bad idea -broknindarkagain My Current Project - Click Here COME AND TAKE IT "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecBamf41 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 that part is under little stress. at most the stress is from vaccum BNR18g on 93oct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overspool Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Lol. But they're only $8 from the dealer. It'll cost you about that in materials if you're going to make your own, it might even be more expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViscousSquirrel Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Making your own is a catastrophically bad idea see above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnegg Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 unless you are flat broke, you are going to replace the valve cover gaskets and the spark plug tube seals as well. just order them from an online dealer and move on. subarupartsforyou.com or https://www.subaruonlineparts.com/oempartscat.html?osCsid=e7e6fd817b16b1a29d93b3d6ecdc98b9 you can replace all gaskets involved for $84.56 plus shipping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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