dkodyl Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Just go info from my dealer in Chicago. My 2006 Legacy GT is coming last week of July with optional navigation - same like they have in England. I will keep you all posted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gt_ltd Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 welcome... This Space For Rent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenzo Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Greetings! Let us know what other new features for '06 are available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litkaj Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Just go info from my dealer in Chicago. My 2006 Legacy GT is coming last week of July with optional navigation - same like they have in England. I will keep you all posted Just so you know, the US Subaru NAV system is a bit retarded. It can track your current location just fine but it doesn't match addresses to locations very well and the map data is pretty out of date. I took a Tribeca out for a test drive so I could test the NAV and the salesman that came with me plugged his home address in. He's been living there for a bit over 5 years and his development isn't even on the map. Similarly, it told me my apartment was about a half mile from where it actually was, that my office was about 1/3 of a mile off, and that the dealership was about 1/4 mile off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sduford Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 At least it's consistent Sylvain www.digitalfotographer.com - Audi Q5 Club - MB-GLK Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolesun Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Just so you know, the US Subaru NAV system is a bit retarded. It can track your current location just fine but it doesn't match addresses to locations very well and the map data is pretty out of date. I took a Tribeca out for a test drive so I could test the NAV and the salesman that came with me plugged his home address in. He's been living there for a bit over 5 years and his development isn't even on the map. Similarly, it told me my apartment was about a half mile from where it actually was, that my office was about 1/3 of a mile off, and that the dealership was about 1/4 mile off. I'm sure Subaru will have an update for it when enough people complain about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eb50 Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 there was no update when lots of peole complained about not being able to put 2-din-car stereos in the LGT. this reason alone, i am not getting an LGT until they fix it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melayout Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Dude, DUDE. The 2 problems are irrelevant. For the nav maps, the fix is a simple software update done by the dealer. For the 2-din-stereo, there is no fix. It would require a redesign of the console/HVAC and a reconfiguration of the assembly line/subcontractors, which most probably won't happen. Subaru is using the LGT to go upscale were most buyers aren't going to be using their own custom stereo setup, same with the Tribeca B9. Now the Impreza/Forester platform gives the customer more freedom and their parts are not tightly integrated compared to LGT/B9. I keed I keeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eb50 Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Dude, DUDE. The 2 problems are irrelevant. For the nav maps, the fix is a simple software update done by the dealer. For the 2-din-stereo, there is no fix. It would require a redesign of the console/HVAC and a reconfiguration of the assembly line/subcontractors, which most probably won't happen. Subaru is using the LGT to go upscale were most buyers aren't going to be using their own custom stereo setup, same with the Tribeca B9. Now the Impreza/Forester platform gives the customer more freedom and their parts are not tightly integrated compared to LGT/B9. if what you were saying was tru about the redesign, why does the JSM have the option to use the din system... its not that hard. SOA is just stubborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melayout Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 if what you were saying was tru about the redesign, why does the JSM have the option to use the din system... its not that hard. SOA is just stubborn. 1. Because the JDM is RHD and we are LHD. The dash/console is angled towards the driver and therefore the JDM option isn't gonna fit without a redesign. 2. A reconfiguration of the assembly line would increase costs that will be passed onto the consumer. 3. I guess Subaru's market research doesn't see a market for that and therefore it is not worth it, unless the majority of Legacy owners complain about it. I keed I keeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderkind Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 the Macintosh unit in the JDM Legacys are nice sounding. However it dejects from the aesthetic flow of the USDM legacy console. I'm not an audiophile by a longshot. I still listen to AM radio every so often. So the current design is fine with me. Besides, i prefer the Boxer music.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 For some reason, the JDM singe zone climate control seems not to be integrated into the audio system's PCB. JDM and greater asian and austrailian regional markets have the OEM stereo, they have an OEM-ized McIntosh head unit option (we have no alternate option) and they have the dual-din face-plate, all RHD, and all independent of the HVAC. I have no idea why SOA didn't get, or didn't want the same options, and decided to cut costs by integrating the circuitry of the HVAC auto-controls into the stereo's circuit board. Again, I think this was an ultimately boneheaded move, but I am not sure if there is anything we can do to get SOA to change it. Thankfully, JL Audio is making products like the CleanSweep, to allow some semblance of adaptability in the aftermarket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Just so you know, the US Subaru NAV system is a bit retarded. It can track your current location just fine but it doesn't match addresses to locations very well and the map data is pretty out of date. I took a Tribeca out for a test drive so I could test the NAV and the salesman that came with me plugged his home address in. He's been living there for a bit over 5 years and his development isn't even on the map. Similarly, it told me my apartment was about a half mile from where it actually was, that my office was about 1/3 of a mile off, and that the dealership was about 1/4 mile off. For only $2,000 too. No thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
litkaj Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 Dude, DUDE. The 2 problems are irrelevant. For the nav maps, the fix is a simple software update done by the dealer. For the 2-din-stereo, there is no fix. It would require a redesign of the console/HVAC and a reconfiguration of the assembly line/subcontractors, which most probably won't happen. Subaru is using the LGT to go upscale were most buyers aren't going to be using their own custom stereo setup, same with the Tribeca B9. Now the Impreza/Forester platform gives the customer more freedom and their parts are not tightly integrated compared to LGT/B9. If only it was that simple. Unfortunately, I don't think that we'll get good maps any time soon. First, the discs that are currently available are marked 2005-2006, that implies that new map discs will not be available until spring-summer of next year. Next, and much more importantly, the maps are from TeleAtlas. TeleAtlas is not known as the most reliable map provider and there is a very good reason why almost everyone else goes with NAVTEQ. Their so-called up-to-date maps are missing large chunks of road all over the place and, as I said earlier, the addresses don't match their actual locations. There is nothing that Subaru can do about it except switch to NAVTEQ (who, by the way, is quite a bit more expensive). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirhecubus42 Posted June 20, 2005 Share Posted June 20, 2005 I think the Japanese market has a double-din replacement bezel available but its only for models with manual climate control which is not integrated in the stereo head unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M. Schneider Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 So the 06' USA Navigation option is gonna suck? Is that what Im hearing? Its been my experience when using other vehicles equiped with a OE Nav., is there balls on accurate. The portable Garmin unit I've used on a motorcyle both here in Colorado and in Germany, France et cetera was balls on accurate. If the NAVTEQ data is considered to be the benchmark of such data....why did Subaru of America choose TeleAtlas? Did someone here say...BONEHEAD. Agreed, WTF! Subaru just lost another upgrade sale, ala an 05' OB XT to a 06' of same...Suckers! Just how many of Subaru's customers (the dealer network) are going to order cars with a known Nav. which does not compete. The word will travel fast. Suckers... SOA listen up, the devil is in the details and NOT the Rube Goldberg fixes at the service facility level. Christ!! not one of the 10 Subaru dealers in the Denver area even know what a Select Monitor 3 is.. go figure. Come on SOA, make the jump from good to great. My .02 Cheers, Mike My other cars: S6 Audi, 911 Porsche, 986 Porsche, VW vintage Cheers, Mike |`94 E-Class Coupe |`98 Carrera 993 C2S |`14 Cayman S |`20 Outback Touring XT | All Debadged | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKLGT Posted June 21, 2005 Share Posted June 21, 2005 well i live in alaska and the oem navigation systems suck for here. half the time, they don't even show what's really there, plus w/ the rapid growth in some areas right now, there's no way to keep up. i'll be getting my portable laptop desk installed, along with my laptop for work. i have MS streets and trips w/ GPS 2005 edition and it has been great! just set up for mobile wifi, so hopefully, i'll be all set to go! Wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle wiggle yeah!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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