Jonny Bradtmueller Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Where can I get torque specs for the 2005 Legacy GT wagon? I'm installing my Perrin front and rear endlinks, Perrin front and rear swaybars and STi "pink" springs on Wednesday and need the torque specs for pretty much everything I take off. Need help. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 I can give you the specs once I get home. I dont have my Chilton's book with me. Keefe Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Bradtmueller Posted April 4, 2005 Author Share Posted April 4, 2005 Thanks I will be looking for the reply later today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Jonny, Tightening torques: Front Stabilizer Endlink: 33.2 ft-lb Bracket: 18.1 ft-lb Rear Stabilizer Endlink: 32.5 ft-lb Bracket: 30 ft-lb Straight from the tech manual. SBT - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Is too tight bad on the sway bar brackets? I didn't have my torque wrench when I did the swap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 WRT to "too tight", I believe you're getting at the issue of whether it compresses the bushings too much. Was this the heart of your question? As long as the bushings are well lubricated, I can't possibly see you getting the bracket bars too tight due to hydraulic resistance around the bar's surface. This "could" force the grease out faster than intended over the long term but we all (hopefully) check the condition of the bushings periodically anyway and re-lube so I don't think it's an issue. FWIW - I've never destroyed a bushing from having it well-lubed and the bracket "over-tightened". HTH SBT - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Jonny, Tightening torques: Front Stabilizer Endlink: 33.2 ft-lb Bracket: 18.1 ft-lb Rear Stabilizer Endlink: 32.5 ft-lb Bracket: 30 ft-lb Straight from the tech manual. SBT Beat me to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Dale - I have AVO bushings up front and every once in awhile I will get a creaking noise with low-speed parking maneuvers. It didn't happen prior to the install and I used the supplied grease. I suppose they could be dry now, if I squeezed it out with too much torque. Maybe it's time to get the ramps back out and crawl under.....if only I had a new DP to swap while I am under there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Two words - Vacation Pictures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Two words - Vacation Pictures Well, yeah.....I have those now...I know I didn't torque to spec because I had no torque wrench or specs. I did the swap on bushings in December when I did the 20mm RSB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Auto zone rents torque wrenchs for free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Auto zone rents torque wrenchs for free No Autozone within an hour's drive of me, unfortunately - only Advance Auto and you are lucky to find someone to ring you up. I got a nice Craftsman DigiTork from Santa.....too bad it didn't come early. I will crawl under the car and do it 'right' this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 well, I guess you need the rest of the numbers for the struts bolts, the top hat bolts and brake bracket bolts. Here they are in the order from top to bottom: 3 x 12mm top hat to chassis bolts (front) = 14.5 lbs +/- 5 lbs17mm self locking nut for securing the top hat (front) = 43 lbs +/- 7 lbsCamber bolt (1 of 2) = 145 lbs +29 or -7 lbsLower Strut bolt (2 of 2) = 145 lbs +29 or -7 lbsRear Shock Anchor bolt = 116 lbs +/- 14 lbs2 x 12mm top hat to chassis bolts (rear) = 22 lbs = +/- 4 lbs17mm self locking nut for securing the rear top hat (rear) = 43 lbs +/- 7 lbsBrake Bracket Bolts = 14 lbs +/- 4 lbsEndlinks = 32 lbs +/- 4 lbsFront Sway Bar Brackets = 18 lbs +/- 2lbsRear Sway Bar Brackets = 29 lbs +/- 5 lbs8 x 14mm Front Crossmember plate bolts = 13 lbs +/- 5 lbs While I have my book open:2 x 14mm Caliper bolts for brakes to change brake pads = 27.5Brake Bleeder = 5 lbs10mm flare nuts for stainless steel lines = 15 lbs +/- 5 lbs And for Cusco Rear Underbrace:2 x 17mm Rear Chassis subframe bolts = 94 lbs +/- 14 lbsRear lateral link pivot bolts = 90 lbs +/- 14 lbs And for Cusco Front Underbrace:17mm Front Chassis subframe bolts = 72 lbs +/-11 lbsAny subframe smaller bolts that you accidentally took off that is an "M" bolt (see head of the bolt for a stamped number): M8 = 25 lbs M10 = 52 lbs M12 = 41 lbs For the stuff lesser than 50 lbs of force (and I hope you guys are not weak bastards) those are usually hand tighten parts with a 6" to 12" ratchet (once your tooling experience is good enough). Anything over that should be checked out with a torque wrench just in case as I am sure you dont want your lug nuts to fall out because you only torqued them half-donkey-monkey kind of way at 50 lbs. I torque my wheels to 80 lbs after I am done with the day. Keefe Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03Indigo Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Keefe, that is great info. Jonny, I printed that stuff up for the install on Wednesday. I will need all that info soon as well, as I am about to venture on my own suspension project, hehe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03Indigo Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 And for Cusco Rear Underbrace: 2 x 17mm Rear Chassis subframe bolts = 94 lbs +/- 14 lbs Rear lateral link pivot bolts = 90 lbs +/- 14 lbs And for Cusco Front Underbrace: 17mm Front Chassis subframe bolts = 72 lbs +/-11 lbs Any subframe smaller bolts that you accidentally took off that is an "M" bolt (see head of the bolt for a stamped number): M8 = 25 lbs M10 = 52 lbs M12 = 41 lbs Keefe, when you are quoting these numbers, are you referring to the Cusco Type II Lower Arm Bar Front and the Cusco Type II Lower Arm Bar Rear. Are those the under brace things? http://www.rallitek.com/pictures/HBBP9_frontlowerbar.jpg http://www.rallitek.com/pictures/HBBP9_rearlowerbar.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rc0032 Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Here are some pics of the rear Cusco Attached are fome of the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03Indigo Posted April 4, 2005 Share Posted April 4, 2005 Here are some pics of the rear Cusco Attached are fome of the front. perfect. that is what I thought, so if those are the torque specs, I should be set now. Thanks for the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Keefe, when you are quoting these numbers, are you referring to the Cusco Type II Lower Arm Bar Front and the Cusco Type II Lower Arm Bar Rear. Are those the under brace things? http://www.rallitek.com/pictures/HBBP9_frontlowerbar.jpg http://www.rallitek.com/pictures/HBBP9_rearlowerbar.jpg Yup. Keefe Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03Indigo Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Yup. Keefe thanks Keefe. You are an endless source of good info... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SBT Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Dale - I have AVO bushings up front and every once in awhile I will get a creaking noise with low-speed parking maneuvers. It didn't happen prior to the install and I used the supplied grease. I suppose they could be dry now, if I squeezed it out with too much torque. Maybe it's time to get the ramps back out and crawl under.....if only I had a new DP to swap while I am under there Could be that the bushings are dry and its just a good time to ramp it up and re-lube after the winter weather. Did you use the AVO supplied grease? I feel that is too light and wears off very quickly. I'm going to get some of the Mobil 1 Silicone grease that Boxer2.5GT recommends and re-do my back bushing when I put my new bushings on the front. Did you get an UP and do the install already? I remember you were looking for one... . Will be waiting for your installation gouge. SBT - Pro amore Dei et patriam et populum - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 I used the AVO stuff, but have some white lithium grease and some Shin-Etsu. I will pick up the Mobil1 grease and re-lube. As for the other parts.....nobody has released product yet, despite constant prodding from me with money in hand. Lachute was going to work up a full TBE with twin tips.....been two months now. Paul @ AVO said he kicked Ross in the arse (not really) and got him to agree to build one for me. We'll see..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
03Indigo Posted April 5, 2005 Share Posted April 5, 2005 Paul @ AVO said he kicked Ross in the arse (not really) and got him to agree to build one for me. We'll see..... Get Jesse James to build one for you:lol: He is the exhaust master Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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