HeathyVT Posted December 8, 2009 Share Posted December 8, 2009 I'm looking to create a little more rear bias, I guess i'm trying to get the rear end to step out more while cornering. I don't know if it also a lack of power put out by the 2.2 on my 99 legacy wagon. I had a harder time then I excepted to get the rear end to step out while playing in a little snow this mourning. Will a larger rear sway bar help out in this situation? I'm working with a outback suspension setup if that makes a difference. Any advice on this would be helpfull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickfast Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I think it's the fact that you don't have a LSD (at least I think it doesn't, you should look that up). If this is the case, the inside tire is where your power is going, preventing you from putting power to the non-slipping tires. You may be able to swap in an LSD, but I'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E-Tank Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 I have recently developed a bias for the rear... Information about my personal life probably isn't much help, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickfast Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 lolz. well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impulse Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 rear bar would help, upping the rear tire pressures abit would help too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted December 9, 2009 Share Posted December 9, 2009 does the OP have a 5mt or a 4eat? if its the 4eat, the center diff biases 90% to the front so it will be hard to get the rear to step out under power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Manual N/A's are eeeasy to get to oversteer. The lack of rear LSD makes step out nicely. Otherwise, yeah, stiffen up the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickfast Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 does the OP have a 5mt or a 4eat? if its the 4eat, the center diff biases 90% to the front so it will be hard to get the rear to step out under power. Interesting, thanks for sharing. Happen to know what the torque bias is for manual tranny second gens? That's a shame that auto's are 90% front... kind of takes the thrill out of awd-ness. Manual N/A's are eeeasy to get to oversteer. The lack of rear LSD makes step out nicely. Otherwise, yeah, stiffen up the rear. um, the lack of a rear LSD makes it harder, not easier, to get the rear end out. I've got a manual 2.2L and it's not really that hard to break it free on snow, but compared to newer legacy's that have and LSD it's much much more difficult. The reason people want LSD's is so that the torque difference on either side of the car is limited, so that in a corner the inside wheel isn't getting nearly all available torque. Now, once you break the tires free it doesn't matter as much what kind of diff you have, but the process of getting the tires loose is harder without an LSD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeathyVT Posted December 10, 2009 Author Share Posted December 10, 2009 Thanks guys, i'm think most of my problems are due to the forester springs on OB struts in the front, and the rear being stock. A friend and I where looking it over and thinking it out. It would seem i don't have the right weight distribution. I'm having a hard getting the rear end out when the front end is plowing like its FWD. Do the forester strut and spring combo fit if I use the Legacy Tophat/bearing? I know the OB does but there a little hard to find... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetiger Posted December 10, 2009 Share Posted December 10, 2009 Interesting, thanks for sharing. Happen to know what the torque bias is for manual tranny second gens? That's a shame that auto's are 90% front... kind of takes the thrill out of awd-ness. 5mt's have always been 50/50 F/R. the newer 5EAT trans bias to the rear a little, but the older 4eats are stuck with most tq going to the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickfast Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 thanks, whitetiger, that makes me so happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05bikemobile Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I beleive that the 4EAT's are 50/50 in 1st and 2nd gear. Manually shift it down to second and try to oversteer it. Mine will do it in the snow easily in 1st or 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DN1911 Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 you can also wire a switch to make the auto go 50/50 on command Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 how hard is this. i got a 4eat 1996 and this explains alot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickfast Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 i dunno, get a manual? (ducks) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 ha. ill check but is this "switch" a mod or just a hidden feature. dont know if that would be in there. ha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WESTcoast Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 I rember this mod, ill find an article about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WESTcoast Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 found it http://www.rs25.com/forums/f8/t99075-4eat-diff-lock-switch-handbrake-mod-torquemada-lite.html enjoy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 hmm. i really wanna do this. ill read the rest of the post tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 wow. wow. love it. electronics and cars. what i wanna do for a living. i got some custom idea for it to.(aka. not gonna look oem) i post pics. im doing this over christmas break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WESTcoast Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 wow. wow. love it. electronics and cars. what i wanna do for a living. i got some custom idea for it to.(aka. not gonna look oem) i post pics. im doing this over christmas break I always wanted to do this but I had bigger plans in mind, but i do have one of the best switches for it though. Can you guys guess what it is?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 stick shift. or something smartasz right? i wanna do the full mod. so the awd or 50/50. and the handbrake. cause i A L W A Y S need that. weird right? i am also bypassing the ignition. i added a ton of toggle switches for looks and i and trying to fill them um. nothin like having the switches so modded that you need to tell your parents how to start and drive your car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickfast Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 hahah thats an awesome idea, do it up man! I'm a pilot as well and I've always wanted a car that I have to flip the master switch, ignition, fuel pump, and START button to get it started... so badass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amp27 Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 yea but more like. the aux power. the first turn. then like all the rest the second click in the key. and then a mom-off switch. ha yea. why use the key if you look your doors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WESTcoast Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 I have another center console that I begged a junk yard for and a good friend of mine crashed is 06 sti on a subaru meet that I co hosted...long story behind that hahaha.....but anyways i wanted to put the whole sti power control thing in my car (mainly just wanted the nob because it was awesome and for my winter project of many i have been combining the center console and that power control thing nob together and then use it for this mod haha. It'll look better than a old boring switch with a light, it will make it look like I have that system in my car which it just controls torque distribution lol. But its been on the back burner for quiet some time now ill start it up sometime when i acually get around to working on the mod lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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