Platinum_Racing Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 So I just made a group on the forum for EJ22 owners out there, since I noticed there wasn't one already. Everyone with an EJ22 powered Legacy out there should join! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 I'm a former owner, but moved on to smaller better things I do adore the 2.2's though, i hope to make an epic 2.2 turbo DOHC build in future. Some day.... some day..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 Only problem is you would have to put it in an OBDI car, since the EJ22T was only available until 1994, one year before Subaru made the OBDII switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reuben Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Oh no, something quite a bit more epic than that. Currently the car is OBD-1 anyway, JDM's didn't go to OBD-2 till 98, when the BE/BH's came out, and the V5/6 impreza's. And i would have to worry bout that anyway, it's not the longblock that defines the loom, it's the intake manifold, and it's sensors. Regardless, i'll be buying a Ver 8 STi engine and loom, with AVCS on the intake and exahust cams. Converting the car to Ver 8, then dropping the 2.2 Short-block in there, and running on an aftermarket ECU. Don't forget just how different the Japanese Domestic Market is mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted September 7, 2009 Author Share Posted September 7, 2009 I totally forgot what country you were in! Doh! Anyway, that thing sounds like it's gonna be crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottcollins72 Posted September 8, 2009 Share Posted September 8, 2009 Where is this group? I want to join! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted September 8, 2009 Author Share Posted September 8, 2009 http://legacygt.com/forums/group.php?groupid=10 Excellent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted September 11, 2009 Author Share Posted September 11, 2009 Just got some pics up, more to come! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepppen Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 94 legacy ej22 and a 96 legacy ej22 Is there a difference in these engines? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqc151 Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 (edited) joined. Edited November 27, 2009 by sqc151 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ggreene Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 !996 legacy L 2.2 single port heads - gotta love this engine, runs strong w. 4eat in this fairly lightweight car. UEL header, light crank pulley, suspension mods, etc. - 194,000 mi., Planning on rebuild when this motor gets tired, (no signs yet). New pistons, headwork, Delta cams, - I know I can make NA power with this engine. - Have grown fond of BD legacy body style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvagnone Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 i had a 96 legacy with the 2.2 and i loved it, always wanted to build it but than i crashed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted October 3, 2009 Author Share Posted October 3, 2009 94 legacy ej22 and a 96 legacy ej22 Is there a difference in these engines? The 1994 is a Phase I version. It uses an OBDI ECU, where as the 1996 is OBDII. The 94 uses a different cylinder head design with a different valve angle. The 96 has a redesigned piston with a shorter skirt that reduces weight. The valvetrain is also different on the 96. The 94 has a compression ratio is 9.5 : 1 and the 96 is 9.7 : 1, which eliminates the clearance between the fully open valve and the piston at TDC, which means the phase II motor is an interferance engine. If the timing belt breaks the engine will probably self-destruct. The phase I engine is a non-interferance engine, which means if the timing belt breaks the engine will just stop running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvagnone Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 i assume they are different because the phase 1 ej22 came boosted hence the lower comperssion and the 96 up was only NA, but thats just an educated guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvagnone Posted October 3, 2009 Share Posted October 3, 2009 and if anyone has an ej22 that doesnt want it, (locally) let me knw, my 94 impreza has a ej18 and it sucks lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepppen Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 I purchased an 85 gl wagon with hi/lo 4wd for 900 dollars. The mileage is 114000+. I am going to install a weber. Any objections with the weber? Why I asked about the ej is I have a 94 lecacy l with 280,000+ on the engine. I bought the 96 legacy ej, with a mileage of 130000+, for two hundered dollars. I am going to use the 94 as a donor for a custom project. I am thinking rebuilding the 94 ej is a better route. I found a hi/lo out of an 86 brat for 100 dollars with 86,000 on it (mabey...) for the transmission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqc151 Posted October 4, 2009 Share Posted October 4, 2009 The 1994 is a Phase I version. It uses an OBDI ECU, where as the 1996 is OBDII. 95 2.2L Legacy's were OBDII 95 1.8L Impreza's were OBDI and the 2.2L were OBDII 96 was the year ALL cars had to be OBDII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysmanfelpz Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 so whats the big deal of a n/a 2.2l engine? i heard they can run forever, but can you make them pretty quick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sqc151 Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 the 2.2L n/a in stock form is very reliable. but as far as making power, not worth it. u want power, swap the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walshy Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Walshy in now in the EJ22 group XD. cant wate to fix her up XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvagnone Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 i think the ej22 can be made to be a power house, the impreza 22b had an ej22 twin turbo and it was a monster. guys making tons of power outta their WRXs stroke them to the 2.2. that engine has the reliablity of the 2.0 with a higher displacement, i would rather have that than my 2.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nepppen Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I am giving a 1946 willys jeep a hi lo transmission with a stock rebuilt 94 legacy l ej22. I am not going with the awd, but want to convert to the 15" wheels. I think the ej's stock hp rating will be more than ample to move the willys. I am not exactly sure how I am going to do the wheel conversion yet so if anyone has some pointers I am all ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted October 5, 2009 Author Share Posted October 5, 2009 (edited) I disagree that the EJ22 cannot be made to produce good HP and torque numbers. The EJ22 can be made to make enough torque and HP to satisfy the daily enthusiast, and it will do so with way better reliability than the pre-2005 EJ25. It will take money, but it's possible. These engines are used in VW conversions all the time, as well as light aircraft and dune buggy's. It's not because they are powerful, it's because of their proven track record for longevity and mid-range torque. They also take well to modifications. How many 1998 EJ25 engines have you seen with 300K miles on original head gaskets? None. Edited October 5, 2009 by Platinum_Racing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladysmanfelpz Posted October 6, 2009 Share Posted October 6, 2009 can you throw 2.5 heads on it for more flow? and can you boost it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted October 7, 2009 Author Share Posted October 7, 2009 A good swap is the older EJ25 GT DOHC naturally aspirated heads. The EJ22 N/A is of a different deck design that isn't fully closed, so while boosting it is possible, its not a very good idea, especially on an older motor with miles on it. You could run a couple pounds and be alright, but you would run the risk of burning up already tired piston rings and/or head gaskets. You would also need to make your own turbo kit from franken-parts online, mis-matching headers with turbos, cutting and welding flanges and piping, fabricating mounts and brackets, and routing intake hoses. Good luck finding a good spot to fit an intercooler. EJ22 turbo parts would bolt right on, but anyone with an EJ22T motor would most certainly not want to part it out. You'd have better luck swapping the motor for an already turbocharged one with a fully closed deck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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