SubieWagon Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 So I hit 225k miles in my 97 wagon, and recently started having over heating issues. Fluid leaking from under left timing belt cover (driver side). Pretty sure its the water pump. So I got the radiator out, front timing belt covers off and the timing belt was in bad shape... looks like a chipmunk was snacking on it lol. Noticed slight oil stains from the cam seals so replacing them while I have everything off, and probably should change them anyways with 225,000 miles right? =) don't have any vehicle maintenance history. The inside of the timing belt covers are filthy, parts of the belt or who knows what all over. Is there any advise to what products to use to clean up the front of the engine before throwing on a new water pump, timing belt, cam seals? I hit it with the air compressor but might have to go at it with an old toothbrush, don't want to screw something else up by using wrong all purpose cleaner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 Scotch-Brite will work too. The timing belt should be replaced in the event that it has to be removed anyway, as it will stretch over time. Timing belts are also notorious for not going back on the same way they came off. Might as well do the cam seals while you're in there. If you're going to drain the coolant, might as well do a thermostat and gasket while it's all drained. For $10-15 and two easily accesible bolts you can't go wrong. It'll save you time and money as opposed to doing it later and having to drain and refill, and burp the coolant again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted August 29, 2009 Share Posted August 29, 2009 While you have the radiator out, could you also take a quick picture, or describe what color wires feed into the plug on the right cooling fan? I had to unplug mine in the winter when they were on constantly for no reason, but now that I have that all straightened out I want to plug the right cooling fan back in, but the wires got pulled out of the plug. I can hardwire them, but I want to know which colors go where. I could try trial and error, but it's cumbersome to get to with the vehicle in one piece. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieWagon Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 off the fan is Green, Blue, and Black http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/aaalohajd/Aug09003.jpg Off the wiring harness is Yellow with Red stripe, White with Blue stripe, and Black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieWagon Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/aaalohajd/Aug09004.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieWagon Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 Timing belt with outer covers off http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/aaalohajd/SubieWagonaug09039.jpg Timing Belt http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/aaalohajd/SubieWagonaug09053.jpg inside the outer timing belt cover http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y198/aaalohajd/SubieWagonaug09042.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickfast Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Wow, your timing belt didn't look so hot! Good to see you got it changed. Change everything under there while it's off so you have to do it once, otherwise you'll have to do this all over again! Couldn't help but notice in the last picture... Did you take the battery out? I didn't know that was done to get access to the timing belt. Are there any stereo codes to worry about with these cars once you start it up after a full power loss? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdubs Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 yikes, thats one ugly timing belt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 I'm pretty sure there are no stereo codes, but if there are there are two easy solutions... 1) http://www.Google.com 2) http://www.OnlineCarStereo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieWagon Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 I've never had a stereo code in any vehicle I ever had. Is that more of a stock radio issue? Before ripping into the timing belt/water pump I cleaned the engine compartment up with some gunk degreaser and cleaner. So I took the battery and the alternator out and covered the fuse box pretty good. More space made it a little easier to work, and all cleaned up to better detect any fluid leak sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Racing Posted September 1, 2009 Share Posted September 1, 2009 I've never had one either, but I've seen one. My Aunt couldn't figure out why her radio wouldn't work after she had a new battery put in her car. Since I'm the family mechanic (Even though I didn't put in her battery) she asked me to take a look. The car was a 1993 Volvo station wagon, and when you turned the car on the radio display read "C0D" for "Code." This was before the almighty internet contained such info, and she lost her manual. I told her she was S-O-L. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubieWagon Posted September 1, 2009 Author Share Posted September 1, 2009 So I got the new water pump, thermo, timing belt, and oil seals all put on with no problems. Did and oil change new oil filter and filled radiator up, went to start it up and nothing! Turned out I forgot to plug the coil pack back up after using the starter motor and breaker bar to loosen the crankshaft pulley bolt haha. It had me worried for a few minutes. But its running great now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
massdrewski Posted September 28, 2009 Share Posted September 28, 2009 glad you were able to fix it. Are the 2.2 timing belt covers interchangeable with the other 2.2's from the 1st Gen? I know in 97 they did some modifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetlethal1000 Posted December 3, 2009 Share Posted December 3, 2009 I dont suppose you have any pictures of the cam seals do you? I am leaking oil from behind my timing belt covers and I suspect my cam seals are gone. I was thinking about doing the work myself. Do you need any special tools to take off the timing belt pulleys and belts? If you dont have pictures could you give a breif description of how to put the cam seals in. From your post Im guessing you didnt have to take the cams completly out to replace the seals which is good. I was worried that I would have to do the head gaskets along with the cam seals. Thanks for the help Brett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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