elephantattack Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 I wouldn't make a new topic for this but there's more to this than just the possibility that my cat is dead. My car: 2005 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Here's the story so far: 1. Got a CEL , got the codes read: O2 Sensor bank one p0031 heater circuit low (ignored it for three months because the guy said it was fine to do so... I'm pretty sure he was wrong.). Took it in to my mechanic (not dealer they wanted a LOT more) he said the front O2 sensor was bad, replaced it for $310 2. Code is gone. 1 week later, CEL comes back! read codes and get: P2096 catalyst fuel trim system too lean bank 1 and P0420 Catalyst efficiency below threshold bank 1 I'm fairly certain I have to get a new catalytic converter... Is there a universal cat option? also, if anyone thinks this ISN'T a cat problem tell me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
naimouasta Posted August 11, 2009 Share Posted August 11, 2009 how many miles? maybe cat is bad. possibly warranty work. theres also a reflash if yours is a pzev model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephantattack Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 83,000 miles. the federal warranty was 8yrs. 80,000 miles. I asked (made a decent argument) the dealer if there was anything that I could do. They said no of course. The flash interests me. how's that go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 wow $310 for the front afr sensor installed? That's a $115 dollar part. You literally lift up the front end a little bit, unplug the sensor and pop out two plastic things that hold it to a bracket, and turn a socket. Then reverse order with the new one. Should take 20 minutes, or 2 minutes for Rao. In the process of fixing your car, maybe have a word with your mechanic? [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iyalla Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 Is it a PZEV car? California and most of the North East had pzev 05's. The waranty is longer and there is a recall to have the ECM reflashed and any bad CATS replaced free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 If you get that kind of trouble I would also suggest a check of the injectors. At that distance they may no longer be optimal, and if they are unbalanced they will put extra strain on any new cat mounted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephantattack Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 I am fairly certain it's not a pzev. As for the sensor, yeah I could have done it myself but I didn't know at the time how easy it was(ugh I'm usually good about checking these things). And the part was 187(I checked around too. The dealer wanted even more) then labor was 100 something. Nobody I took it to could tell me if it was front or rear either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephantattack Posted August 12, 2009 Author Share Posted August 12, 2009 So does anyone know if you can get a universal cat on my car? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClimberDHexMods Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 I am fairly certain it's not a pzev. As for the sensor, yeah I could have done it myself but I didn't know at the time how easy it was(ugh I'm usually good about checking these things). And the part was 187(I checked around too. The dealer wanted even more) then labor was 100 something. Nobody I took it to could tell me if it was front or rear either. Have you given Fred Beans Parts a call yet? Cheap OEM parts, and very helpful. That's where I got my front afr sensor. Maybe a different part #. You can weld in a universal cat. Just make sure it's not a high flow version. [CENTER][B][I] Front Limited Slip Racing Differentials for the 5EAT now available for $1895 shipped, please inquire for details! [/I][/B][/CENTER] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06gtleg Posted August 12, 2009 Share Posted August 12, 2009 i say get a high flow cat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elephantattack Posted August 13, 2009 Author Share Posted August 13, 2009 Mkay so I have new information. 1. it's my front cat that's gone, this one: oem#: 44659aa00a 2. I took it in to a shop out here that does universal cat installs. They told me there was no way to replace that with a universal one. so... I think I'm pretty screwed. I'm still trying to find this thing for under 600 though. Anyone know where I could get this used? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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