boostedsube Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I'm looking to improve the 2nd to 3rd gear throw as well as the excessive play in my '05 LGT 5mt. I am sick of almost missing that 2nd to 3rd speed shift. Thinking of going with the STI STS and Cobb or Perrin bushings. Any comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkel33leg05 Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 I have the perrin sts adaptor along with the perrin bushings. I have loved it since day one. The bushings really give it a nice tight feel side to side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostedsube Posted February 21, 2009 Author Share Posted February 21, 2009 I have the perrin sts adaptor along with the perrin bushings. I have loved it since day one. The bushings really give it a nice tight feel side to side. How is the 2 - 3 power shift? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkel33leg05 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 It is much firmer. I bearly ever miss gears with the setup. I drove my brothers car not to long ago 05LGT bone stock and god with the stock shifter set up it just feels very loose and i find myself searching for the gears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbite3360 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 It is much firmer. I bearly ever miss gears with the setup. I drove my brothers car not to long ago 05LGT bone stock and god with the stock shifter set up it just feels very loose and i find myself searching for the gears. I'm looking at getting the Perrin sts kit myself. It says on their website you get the sts, bushings, and shift knob all in one kit. Did all this come with yours, and if so how is the shift knob and what does it look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkel33leg05 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 hey no i did not buy the kit. Ive had these parts in my car for about 15-16months now. But here is a picture of the perrin shift knob on jscspeed.com. Maby this is what comes with the kit. http://www.jscspeed.com/universal/products/perrin_knob.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolksey85 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 What type of bushings are in the STi short throw? Are they similar to the OE, non-SS pieces? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkel33leg05 Posted February 21, 2009 Share Posted February 21, 2009 Are you asking what bushing came with a legacy that was factory equipped with the sti shifter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolksey85 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Are you asking what bushing came with a legacy that was factory equipped with the sti shifter? Yeah. Let's say I buy this: http://www.fredbeansparts.com/servlet/the-1067/STi-Subaru-Legacy-GT/Detail Does that come with the same style (read: sloppy) bushings that are from the factory or are they stiffer in the short throw than the non shorth throw? Basically, I'm wondering whether or not the bushings are the same material so when I buy the SS, should I also buy, say, Cobb, shifter bushings or are they not needed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkel33leg05 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Huh that’s a good question. I'm not sure. I would assume that they would be somewhat stiffer but that’s just an assumption. Anybody else know the answer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbite3360 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Yeah. Let's say I buy this: http://www.fredbeansparts.com/servlet/the-1067/STi-Subaru-Legacy-GT/Detail Does that come with the same style (read: sloppy) bushings that are from the factory or are they stiffer in the short throw than the non shorth throw? Basically, I'm wondering whether or not the bushings are the same material so when I buy the SS, should I also buy, say, Cobb, shifter bushings or are they not needed? I actually don't think they come with the bushings. In all my research of the different short throw options for our cars, I've never read that the STI sts included bushings. If I were to order this piece (which for $300 I probably wouldnt), I'd get the stiffer bushings from cobb or rallitek. But then again, you might want to look at a kit that already includes these things and costs a couple hundred dollars less. Plus with the STI sts it is not adjustable, most of the other ones like from AVO or Perrin or KArtboy ARE adjustable and cost a lot less. Just my .02 cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkel33leg05 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 The kit he is looking at replaces everything in the shifter assembly. Although I do agree with you just buying an aftermarket shifter lever and some bushings would probably run you half of the sti shifter assembly and will still give you the same end result. Also being able to adjust it to your liking is a plus as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolksey85 Posted February 22, 2009 Share Posted February 22, 2009 Well, to me, I don't care about the adjustability for 1. 2, I've seen complaints about the Cobb unit. 3, I'd buy this for the same reason I bought the STi gauge cluster: because it carries an OEM part and if there's any issues with that specific part, I can go back to the dealer and have them diag it. You pay more for it but it's also a quality piece because of that reason. That, and in the end, it's another $100 to get the bushings already in it even if they are the rubber OEM pieces. You're also getting all new linkage, not just what is esentially a threaded rod. That's my take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boostedsube Posted February 22, 2009 Author Share Posted February 22, 2009 Well, to me, I don't care about the adjustability for 1. 2, I've seen complaints about the Cobb unit. 3, I'd buy this for the same reason I bought the STi gauge cluster: because it carries an OEM part and if there's any issues with that specific part, I can go back to the dealer and have them diag it. You pay more for it but it's also a quality piece because of that reason. That, and in the end, it's another $100 to get the bushings already in it even if they are the rubber OEM pieces. You're also getting all new linkage, not just what is esentially a threaded rod. That's my take. I'm going to go with the STI STS as well but wanted to know if the STI bushings were good or should I order a set of Cobb or Perrin bushings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolksey85 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I'll shoot a PM to Jeremy and see if he has any insight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbite3360 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 That, and in the end, it's another $100 to get the bushings already in it even if they are the rubber OEM pieces. http://www.rallitek.com/cushbukit.html A quick look for bushings found these for $16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolksey85 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Right from the man himself: I just inspected on I had here, & the bushings are pretty mushy. They definetely dont feel any better than stock. Looks like we should also buy bushings if you buy the Subaru short throw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevkel33leg05 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 ^good info to know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goneskiian Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 I can't find the specific post but have had others confirm here on the boards that the only difference between the STi STS and the stock one is the geometry of the "threaded rod" that you shift with. So, yes, I would bet that the bushings are the same. TiC makes a great bushing upgrade kit. http://www.turninconcepts.com/product_info.php?cPath=1_9_7_486_493_1188&products_id=321 Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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