Dawrah Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 food for thought from an engineering point of view, nothing can truly be 180 degrees. the cylinders are not perfectly 180 degrees apart but are more like 179.99999 degrees. as the limit of measurement approaches infinity, the angle does approach 180 degrees but never truly arrives at that point. thus i postulate that our engines are not truly horizontally opposed as stated in the car brochure and that we truly have v-engines. final fact, we have v-4 engines and are thus half of an american muscle v-8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmoe Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 That's one wiiiiide "v". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 get your flame suit on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbc84 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 sweet so i can tell people I have a V4 instead now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 lol! or maybe its a "ALMOST boxer engine" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrypticWaste Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 i would still like to say that its a H4 just because it makes you look good and feel good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodstock Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 the cylinders are not perfectly 180 degrees apart but are more like 179.99999 degrees. In math you can round this off. right? 179.99999 = 180:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimakf7 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 That's not an engineering point of view.. that's more of a mathematical point of view. From an engineering point of view, you round numbers as they are practical. Nothing's ever going to be precise to 15 decimal places, cause that precision isn't required for the specific application. You can't create significant figures if the components itself weren't designed to that specific tolerance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
987687 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 food for thought from an engineering point of view, nothing can truly be 180 degrees. the cylinders are not perfectly 180 degrees apart but are more like 179.99999 degrees. as the limit of measurement approaches infinity, the angle does approach 180 degrees but never truly arrives at that point. thus i postulate that our engines are not truly horizontally opposed as stated in the car brochure and that we truly have v-engines. final fact, we have v-4 engines and are thus half of an american muscle v-8. Are you sure it isn't a 180.0000001° angle? Then we'd have a reverse v4 engine... or what if one side was 179.999999° and the other side was 180.000001°. Then it would be a sideways boxer... So many options! It's just crazy. My poor car is currently parked in a corner of the driveway having self-identity issues because you decided to do some math I need to go for a joy ride to cheer it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scotty Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 From a real engineer's point of view, you need to get a life and get laid. If you really want to get technical, standard angular tolerance is ±30' in the manufacturing world. 95% of the cylinders will fall between 179°30' and 180°30'. So you really end up with a W-4 or a radial engine. If you really didn't have a life, you would argue it is not a true Boxer engine since there would be no way to time a set of pistons to move in and out at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ultimakf7 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 From a real engineer's point of view, you need to get a life and get laid. If you really want to get technical, standard angular tolerance is ±30' in the manufacturing world. 95% of the cylinders will fall between 179°30' and 180°30'. So you really end up with a W-4 or a radial engine. If you really didn't have a life, you would argue it is not a true Boxer engine since there would be no way to time a set of pistons to move in and out at the same time. yeah, what he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molal24 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 From a real engineer's point of view, you need to get a life and get laid. ROFL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
han Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 So, if subaru's engine is , according to you, a v4, then it shouldn't be a 2.5GT right? it should technically be a Subaru Legacy 2.457 GT .......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawrah Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 Nothing's ever going to be precise to 15 decimal places, cause that precision isn't required for the specific application. true, but according to sig figs, as all engineers would know, i say at least a 1/10 of a degree is sufficient and therefore it is very rare to have a measurement rounded off to 180 degrees. also, to the person above, i agree, no one of our engines are the same and therefore our cars should be named legacy 2.5+/-2% GT. second food for thought, although our engines can never be a true boxer, just remember an inline engine, like a certain MIVEC, can never be at 0 degrees and is thus too a v-4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestig Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Are you sure it isn't a 180.0000001° angle? Then we'd have a reverse v4 engine... or what if one side was 179.999999° and the other side was 180.000001°. Then it would be a sideways boxer... Could that make it into a X-4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawrah Posted January 25, 2009 Author Share Posted January 25, 2009 Could that make it into a X-4? depends on your reference point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addison Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 That's one wiiiiide "v". thats what i told your mom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawl Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 i had to wince a bit there addison car for sale. PM me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehsnils Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p61/sebberry/forum%20pics/mazdapivk4.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Somebody loves his pie (sic) Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbc84 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I still like this term more "Quadrozontal Engine" http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3071/2854306336_176de6d7e4.jpg?v=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestig Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 Front Drive Subaru I thought if those word were put together the world would explode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProjectS15 Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 I thought if those word were put together the world would explode. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subaru_R1 comes in FWD and AWD! BOOM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbluelb Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 So it is a somewhat-flat-four??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestig Posted January 25, 2009 Share Posted January 25, 2009 comes in FWD and AWD! BOOM! I had a feeling that I was in hell right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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