Clutch advice

[SubieAA]

Hi fellow NEders,

 

I have been driving my with my clutch which started slipping about 5 months after I bought it in January. I cad drive it each day, but I am about ready to finally get a new clutch, and I can afford it.

 

I have read about the ACT Stage 1 clutch plus WRX fly wheel.

 

I am stage 1 Cobb with a longer stability bar in the rear. This is my daily driver, I do 60miles minimum a day, and I want to drive the car for a long time. I might go stage 2, but I want to upgrade the brakes first; I have been unhappy with some sudden stops on the highway.

 

So am I better of with an OEM clutch set-up or an ACT clutch plus WRX flywheel? Especially for Mass Greater Metrowest driving conditions. Also who do you recommend for an install. I have used Speen Street SUbaru in Framingham for 30K service.

 

Thanks.

[CapeStylz]

dont know if this will help or not but......

 

i had same sort of thing happen so i replaced the oem clutch but got the lightened fw then i went stage 2.5 (up/dp/cat-back,fmic,typhoon intake tune....now it slips under full throttle and i only put about 20,000 on the clutch...........so im getting an upgraded clutch only 6 months later....which sucks but i didnt think i would mod that soon and now im stuck buying another clutch

[SubieAA]

What are you upgrading to? Was the lightened fw the problem? Nice car btw.

[HansGT]

The ACT will hold up nicely for you and drives very near stock. Maybe 5-10% firmer pedal with nice engagement. You could get OEM and it should be fine at stage 1 depending how you drive. But for the cost you should just go ahead with the ACT. You could also go with SPEC if you want to keep a dual mass flywheel.

 

Personally I've been very pleased with my ACT clutch (SB5-HDMM) and 06 WRX Flywheel (PN: 12342AA090)

 

http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55859&highlight=act+win

[HansGT]

What are you upgrading to? Was the lightened fw the problem? Nice car btw.

 

Most likely his problem was too much power for the stock clutch.

[SubieAA]

Most likely his problem was too much power for the stock clutch.

 

I do drive aggresively, so I do put pressure on the clutch. I would eventually like to get to stage 2. I just have to take care of the suspension and brakes first.

 

I have read a lot of good reviews of the ACT clutch plus WRX fw. It sounds like once in awhile they send out a dud and those poor customers have a lot of trouble. Does this combination hold up under stage 2 then?

 

Thanks.

[HansGT]

^ *knocks on wood* Yes. For me anyway...stage 2+. I've had the set up for over a year and no slippage.

 

(UP/TBE/PERRIN TMIC/TDC Stage 2 93 tune)

[sportwagon]

I'm in the market for a clutch, too... I've babied it since last fall... and still could for a while longer, but with the colder weather finally here (esp. at night when I do most of my driving) it makes my clutch slip in 5th and now almost in 4th, too... in the summer I really experience almost no slippage! I can drive fine with out slippage most of the time, but I'm getting ready for a busy ski season and lot of mileage... so it's time to ACT. huh huh... I guess I'll go with the ACT... but which stage?

 

Anyone have some suggestions...

[sportwagon]

I drive 50+ miles (mostly highway, with minimal traffic) daily.

I drive hard, but not much lately due to the clutch.

My car (2005 Legacy GT ltd. Sedan) has 79 and change on it.

 

I live in South Boston... and I hate street parking... but that's besides the point!

 

My current mods (I plan to do full TBE at some point):

 

Chassis/Suspension:

JDM Legacy STi Sport Spring Set – Pink

JDM Legacy GT Bilstein Struts – Rev. A

Spec B Aluminum Front Lower Control Arms

SuperPro Polyurethane Camber-Increasing LCA Bushings

STi Training Arms w/ ball-bearing bushing– Painted Blue w/ Silver STi logos

Cusco Front Sway Bar 23mm – Blue

Cusco Rear Sway Bar 21mm – Blue

AVO Front & Rear Adjustable Endlinks (AVO Solid Endlinks to be installed)

Cobb Rear Sway Bar Reinforcement Bracket Kit

STi Upper Strut Bar

Cusco Front Lower Brace – Blue

Cusco Rear Lower Brace – Blue

Engine:

AVO Bar & Plate Top Mount Intercooler – Red-Painted STi Logo

GFB Hybrid Blow Off Valve – Set to 50/50 recirculation

Zero Sports Cool Action Intercooler Splitter

Zero Sports Intake Pipe

Perrin Radiator Hose – Red

Perrin Drop-In filter

Blitz Induction Cover - Air Box Replacement

Samco BOV Hoses – Red

(Perrin Lightweight Crank Pulley to be installed)

Engine Bay Bling:

Cusco Radiator Cooling Plate

STi 1.4 Barr Radiator Cap

STi Engine Oil Cap

Prodrive Battery Tie-down

JDM Engine Bay Cover Set – Black

Brakes:

Painted Calipers – Red

DBA 4000 Series Slotted Rotors Front & Rear

Hawk HPS Brake Pads Front & Rear

Goodridge Silicone-Coated Stainless Steel Brake Lines – Carbon Gray

Subaru Brake Fluid

Drivetrain:

Cobb Double-Adjustable Short Throw Shifter

Kartboy Rear Shifter Bushing

Kartboy Hardened Shifter Bushings

Exhaust:

DC Sports Uppipe (not currently installed)

Genome STi Axle-back Exhaust

Cusco Exhaust Hangars

Engine Management:

Cobb AccessPort – Stage 1

Audio:

Sony MEX-5DI MP3/CD/Memeory Stick Receiver w/ TFT LCD Display

Sony CDX-757MX 10 Disc CD/MP3 Changer

Sony XA-300 Auxiliary/BUS Changer Control Unit w/ USB Interface

JL CleanSweep CL44I dsp

JL 500/1 Monoblock Amplifier

JL 300/4 4 Channel Amplifier

JL 10W7 High Output Wedge Subwoofer Box

JL VR 650-Csi Front Component Speakers

JL VR 600-Csi Rear Component Speakers

JL Remote Bass Control Knob

JL XA-PBTC- 2 – Positive Battery Terminal

JL XA-NBTC- 2 – Negative Battery Terminal

JL XA-BLKPW4- 115 – 4 Gauge Ground Power Wire (55Ft)

JL XA-REDPW4- 115 – 4 Gauge Positive Power Wire (55Ft)

JL XA-MGL1- B – Master Ground Lug Bolt

JL XA-FUSE-ANL- 150 – 150 AMP Blade Fuse

(8) JL XA-RT- 4 – 4 Gauge Ring Terminals (8 Pairs)

(2) JL XA-BLUSCS12- 130 – 12 Gauge Parallel Conductor Speaker Wire Kits (50Ft)

JL XA-BLUAIC4-18 – 4-Channel Audio Interconnects (Sony H.U. to JL 300/4)

JL XA-BLUAIC2-18 – 2-Channel Audio Interconnects (Sony H.U. to JL 500/1)

JL XA-BLUAIC2-12 – 2-Channel Audio Interconnects (Sony H.U. to Aux Changer)

JL XA-BLUAIC2- 9 – 2-Channel Audio Interconnects (10 Disc MP3 to Aux Changer)

JL XA-BLUAIC2- 6 – 2-Channel Audio Interconnects (CleanSweep to Aux Changer)

Monster Audio MPC S402 2C-15M – 402 XLN Extreme Speaker wire (50Ft)

Monster Audio 4 Gauge Terminal Breaker Switch

Phoenix Gold Powered/ Fused Distribution Block w/ LED/ Remote LED Status Indicator

Voodoo FBVP11DNL – Digital Voltage Meter/Fuse Block

Sound-Deadening:

Application: 100% Coverage (no bare metal showing) Areas of:

Trunk, Trunk Lid, Rear Deck, Rear Seat Deck, Rear Floor, Rear A-Pillars, Under Front Seats, Center Console Area, Front Floor, and Four Doors (Inner Frames & Body Panels)

Sound-Deadening Materials:

(2) Dynamat Extreme Bulk Packs – 72 total sq/ft Material (1.7mm thick) ~ 33 Lbs

(2) B-Quiet Extreme 50ft Rolls – 100 total sq/ft Material (1.15mm thick) ~ 33 Lbs

Interior:

Auto-dimming Mirror With Compass (only factory option)

Rear Center Seatbelt Removal

AVO Single Din Cubby Replacement

STi Side Sills Kit

Authentic STi Floor Mats (2004 Impreza STi)

Red Line Goods Shifter Boot (shortened 4” Black Leather w /JDM Quadruple Stitching)

Red Line Goods E-Brake Boot (Black Perforated Leather w/ JDM Quadruple Stitching)

Red Line Goods Armrest Cover (Black Perforated Leather w/ JDM Quadruple Stitching)

STi Carbon Fiber Shift Pattern

2002-2003 Genuine STi Foglight Mesh-Grille custom install into rear deck lid

Cup Holder Blue LED Illumination Mod

Garmin Nuvi 660

Buried 12V Mod (cell phone charger and Garmin Nuvi charger)

Driver Interface:

MOMO Steering Wheel (stock) w/ STi Emblem

MOMO Aluminum Air Shift Knob / STi Ti Shift Knob / STi Black Delrin Shift Knob

STi Metal Pedal Set – Silver/Pink

Gauges:

Defi BF Boost Gauge Meter – Brass T-Fitting

Defi BF Fuel Pressure Gauge Meter – Custom Brass Fuel Pressure Line Adapter

Defi BF Oil Pressure Gauge Meter – Subaru Oil Gallery Plug Adapter

(3) Defi 60mm Meter Cups

(3) Defi Free-Angle Mounts

(3) Defi Meter Cup Hoods

Custom 3-Meter Cup Bracket

Defi Control Link Unit II

Custom Control Unit “Hack” Into Ashtray- Frigg’n Sweet!!!

Exterior:

Debadged Trunk

STi Badges

RBS Replica JDM Grille

RBS Replica JDM Front Lip Spoiler

Subaru Moonroof Air Deflector

Thule Roof Rack

Thule Fairing

REI Exclusive Thule Roof Box – Carbon Fiber Pattern

(2) STi License Plate Frames – Polished Stainless

Protection:

Rock Blockers Headlight Protection – Clear

Rock Blockers Fog light Protection – Yellow

RalliTek Hydro-Cut Aluminum Skidplate – Painted Blue

Rally Armor Mud Flaps

Security:

CompuStar 2WSS Remote Start/ Alarm/ Turbo-timer

Safety:

Xenon Factory 5000K HID Conversion Kit – PnP

Wheels/Tires:

Summer

Prodrive PFF7 Bright Fitter Alloy Rims (18 x 8, 5x100, ET51 CB, 21.35 lbs)

Toyo Proxes T1R Ultra-High Performance Summer Tires 235/40/18

Winter

 

Prodrive P1 Bright Silver Alloy Rims (17 x 7, 5x100, ET52 CB, 20.04 lbs)

Nokian WR G2 Performance All-Season Snow Tires 225/40/17

Utility/Off-road

 

Prodrive P7 Gunmetal Alloy Rims (17 x 7, 5x100, ET52 CB, 22.50 lbs)

Bridgestone RE092 All-Season Tires 215/45/17 (stock tires)

STi JDM Lug Nut Set by McGard – Black

Other Modifications:

Green Screaming Trunk Monkey w/ Dark Hangover Shades (+10WHP)

 

 

 

Here are my mods

[sportwagon]

 

Other Modifications:

Green Screaming Trunk Monkey w/ Dark Hangover Shades (+10WHP)

 

 

 

Here are my mods

 

 

 

Oh sh*t my trunk monkey isn't in the car now... that's a problem -10 WHP

[katalyst]

^ damn i didn't know you had so many mods. i see your car a bunch in sobo where i work, i was gonna park behind you once haha but then it was further of a walk so i didn't. i hate the street cleaning on mondays!! i got a ticket even though i parked on the CORRECT side once, ridiculous!

 

but gonna be transferring out of there soon, maybe i can check your car out at a meet one of these days.

[HansGT]

Nice list of mods, although not sure what most of them have to do with your clutch.

 

Anyway as for which "stage" ACT clutch take a look at post #4. Great set up for a stage 2 LGT.

[sportwagon]

^ damn i didn't know you had so many mods. i see your car a bunch in sobo where i work, i was gonna park behind you once haha but then it was further of a walk so i didn't. i hate the street cleaning on mondays!! i got a ticket even though i parked on the CORRECT side once, ridiculous!

 

but gonna be transferring out of there soon, maybe i can check your car out at a meet one of these days.

 

 

Yeah... I don't even want to begin talking about street cleaning... my car has been towed twice now! I just this month got my registration changed to Southie... but I still have no sticker and I get tickets all the time... it sucks!

 

I think I drove by your car today... on E street... silver 2.5 NA with stock spoiler???

 

I have been crazy busy as of late... just got married in October, moved from the North Shore to Southie (even though I pretty much lived there now for a while) moving jobs in my company and so on... I'm finally now having time to think about winterizing the Leggy! I'm still rolling on my summers because I haven't had a chance to change over to winter set!

 

I work from 2-10:30pm, so if you want to meet up some time on your lunch break... if you can... just let me know!

[sportwagon]

Nice list of mods, although not sure what most of them have to do with your clutch.

 

Anyway as for which "stage" ACT clutch take a look at post #4. Great set up for a stage 2 LGT.

 

 

Ha ha... Good point! I just have a word document of my mods list... I guess I could have gotten by with just listing the power mods... but I'm sure there are some people that might be able get a better depiction of my clutch needs from looking at my entire car mods list... besides... I have a relatively stock powertrain... but my car is far from stock, wouldn't you agree?

[sportwagon]

BTW... SubaruAA - sorry for the threadjack!

 

Have you figured out what you are going to do and where your getting the work done!

 

I for one know where I am going to get the job done- Fastrack Automotive in Peabody! They do great work and have plenty of experience with clutch work on the current generation legacy!

[HansGT]

Ha ha... Good point! I just have a word document of my mods list... I guess I could have gotten by with just listing the power mods... but I'm sure there are some people that might be able get a better depiction of my clutch needs from looking at my entire car mods list... besides... I have a relatively stock powertrain... but my car is far from stock, wouldn't you agree?

 

Yep, you have a nice collection of goodies.

[katalyst]

Yeah... I don't even want to begin talking about street cleaning... my car has been towed twice now! I just this month got my registration changed to Southie... but I still have no sticker and I get tickets all the time... it sucks!

 

I think I drove by your car today... on E street... silver 2.5 NA with stock spoiler???

 

I have been crazy busy as of late... just got married in October, moved from the North Shore to Southie (even though I pretty much lived there now for a while) moving jobs in my company and so on... I'm finally now having time to think about winterizing the Leggy! I'm still rolling on my summers because I haven't had a chance to change over to winter set!

 

I work from 2-10:30pm, so if you want to meet up some time on your lunch break... if you can... just let me know!

 

ouch, sucks man....

but congrats on the wedding.

 

yeah the silver 2.5i is me. i'm pretty swamped at work and i've been playing catch up on paperwork over my lunch breaks lately plus i'm transfering next week so i prob won't get the chance to meet up. but i'm sure we'll run into each other later on.

 

+1 for fastrack in peabody, MA

 

/threadjack

[SubieAA]

No problem. Finally getting back on this. Life was swamped; still is :-).

 

I am going to order the parts, thanks Han'sGT.

 

I work in Framingham which is why I was looking at Speen Street Automotive. Any recommendations on them? I will call Peabody to see if they can do a loaner.

 

No problem on the threadjack. I live in East Boston and parking is always great fun...

[sportwagon]

No problem. Finally getting back on this. Life was swamped; still is :-).

 

I am going to order the parts, thanks Han'sGT.

 

I work in Framingham which is why I was looking at Speen Street Automotive. Any recommendations on them? I will call Peabody to see if they can do a loaner.

 

No problem on the threadjack. I live in East Boston and parking is always great fun...

 

 

Ohhhh... OK... My car is in the shop now getting the clutch installed... along with TXS uppipe, Invidia DP, and perrin mid/y-pipe!!!

[HiRoller]

SubieAA:

 

Speen Street is a great shop and they have done a ton of work for me over the years. They do provide loaners. I would check out dentsport garage in Norwood. They have much more experience with an aftermarket clutches than Speen Street and there is a good chance they will be cheaper on the labor. According to their website, a subaru clutch job is priced at $500. They will not have a loaner for you though. Glad to see you're still enjoying the AP.

 

Hiroller

[SubieAA]

SubieAA:

 

Speen Street is a great shop and they have done a ton of work for me over the years. They do provide loaners. I would check out dentsport garage in Norwood. They have much more experience with an aftermarket clutches than Speen Street and there is a good chance they will be cheaper on the labor. According to their website, a subaru clutch job is priced at $500. They will not have a loaner for you though. Glad to see you're still enjoying the AP.

 

Hiroller

 

Hi Hiroller,

 

Enjoying the AP big time even though I have needed a new clutch for awhile. I will probably upgrading my brakes as well, and may still look at one more suspension upgrade before I go to stage 2. I am a guy that enjoys the 'looks like a family wagon, runs like a porsche' of this car. Stage 2 will probably the ultimate destination, but I am impressed by what some have done.

 

Actually about to by the Iphone outlet cable the guy on this site advertized.

 

Thanks for the heads up about Norwood; I definitely want to make sure it is done very well.

 

Thanks.

[Guest]

Definitely go to Dentsport in Norwood over Fastrack in Peabody.

 

Great guys and true performance shop catering to enthusiasts over a wanna-be one.

[SubieAA]

Definitely go to Dentsport in Norwood over Fastrack in Peabody.

 

Great guys and true performance shop catering to enthusiasts over a wanna-be one.

 

Thanks for the heads up; will checkthem out.

[SubieAA]

Ordered it today from ACT - $879.33 all in - not too cheap. I am going to go to Dentsport as well. Thanks all.

[SubieAA]

Well, $2,200 for new clutch, flywheel, 60K service, I can think about stage 2. I could have saved ~400 on parts if I had bought better. Next time and thanks for the advise. The DSG guys were cool.