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RustyShackleford

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Damn if I know which forum this should go in ...

 

I travel to a lot of remote locations and such - where it'd be pretty

awful to lose one's key or lock oneself out - so I like to keep a secret

key hidden on the exterior of my car.

 

Reading the manual, I notice they say not to let the key get wet.

I guess the thing has some electronics in it, as part of the security

"immobilizer".

 

Any idea just how sensitive the key is to wetness ? It's not like it's

gonna get drenched, where I have it.

 

I suppose I could cover it with RTP (silicon) sealant, which can be rubbed

off pretty easily.

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I seen small key boxes at autostores, or even walmart, where they have a magnetic base i think. (probably not good for the chip inside the key).

 

If I had to do it, I would buy that box thingy for a few bucks, go to a store, get a key copy made (Without the chip) that way you can just open the door, but not start the car. Leave a spare key with chip inside the trunk, under the spare tire, hidden inside the trunk side carpeting, or maybe even inside the fuse box under the hood.

 

And since the box is magnetic, maybe stick it somewhere in the underbody, or maybe the spare tire well under the car.

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... go to a store, get a key copy made (Without the chip) that way you can just open the door, but not start the car. Leave a spare key with chip inside the trunk, under the spare tire, hidden inside the trunk side carpeting, or maybe even inside the fuse box under the hood.

 

That's a great idea. But I think I'll just duct tape the flat chipless key

somewhere, same as on my older cars.

 

Forgive me if I keep the location my little secret :-)

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If I had to do it, I would buy that box thingy for a few bucks, go to a store, get a key copy made (Without the chip) that way you can just open the door, but not start the car. Leave a spare key with chip inside the trunk, under the spare tire, hidden inside the trunk side carpeting, or maybe even inside the fuse box under the hood.

 

So I found a hardware guy who was willing to cut me a "flat" version

of my key (without the plastic thing with the security chip). As

mentioned above, the idea would be to secret this one underneath the

car somewhere, for emergency use, with a spare chipped key hidden

inside the car. (The idea is that maybe the chipped key won't like

potentially getting wet underneath the car, plus the flat one is easier

to hide discreetly, like with a piece of duct-tape).

 

Anyhow, hardware guy says that he's heard of using one of these

un-chipped keys (in the door lock) "messing up the computer" and

he can't be responsible if that happens. Anyone ever heard of such

a thing ?

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Ehh...you'll likely set off the alarm if you use the unchipped key in the door, but I doubt it'll "mess up the computer". Hell even if you use an chipped key in the door it might set off the alarm.

 

Eric

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Anyhow, hardware guy says that he's heard of using one of these

un-chipped keys (in the door lock) "messing up the computer" and

he can't be responsible if that happens. Anyone ever heard of such

a thing ?

 

Ok.

At work we have the Chiped keys in the Dodge's we drive.

Someone locked themselves out of the car and had to have someone bring a key to them.

She went to Walmart and had a spare non chipped key made, just like what you are talking about.

 

it WILL set the alarm off. that is all.

and it won't start the car.

 

it does nothing to the computer, it's perfectly fine.

I use the spare key all the time, cause the stupid Dodge engineers think that there should be NO power to the 12v adapter (cigarette lighter) when the key is off. so i charge the iPod/phone and leave the key in the ignition when i run into the office, and use the spare key to unlock the car.

Car is almost always in sight, and behind a secure fence at the office.

 

any key place should know this. they should just inform you that it is a spare outside key only, and it will set alarm off. they tell you anymore, they are trying to sound smarter than they are.

 

 

what i want to know... is where a piece of duct tape will hold the key on the outside... and not look obvious.

 

and BTW, one thing you should think of on the magnetic boxes.

don't put one in the wheel well. not only can the day to day bumps loosen it, but where do you think is the first place someone wanting in your car would look?... then again, they do tend to just break your windows anymore. and yeah, i wouldn't put use magnetic key box with the chipped key either. may not be a problem, but with the price of keys... why risk it.

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what i want to know... is where a piece of duct tape will hold the key on the outside... and not look obvious.

 

Underneath the car. I don't tend to access it except in the case of

emergency aka. stupidity, maybe once a year.

 

Or fasten it to something under there with a cable tie.

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Cable tie would work.

 

i just think that duct tape would eventually wear enough to lose the key.

 

Did it on my old car, never a problem. Not a "strap" of duct tape,

mind you, rather a big flat piece with the key underneath it (protected

from the adhesive by some tin foil), firmly pressed against a carefully

cleaned flat place.

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