xihearthookersx Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 well right now i am letting go on the BOV thing. Should get my AP tomorrow. How hard is a short throw kit to install? I am still a little nervous about doing the installs. When you put on a new DP and CBE do you need new gaskets? If so do they come with the gaskets? Where can i find said gaskets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threelions23 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 The Borla and cobb dp/up i had installed for a while its a nice setup its not loud but just right with good flow. i would send a clip but im upgrading again car is down ;-{ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xihearthookersx Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 well what did you think about the power gain? was it super noticeable? I am going with ap dp and cbe, so i am expecting a pretty noticeable difference. still dont know about the gaskets though >< Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonts Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Your exhaust bits do NOT come with new gaskets. There is some disagreement on whether or not you should get new gaskets. I got new gaskets for my install but not everybody does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LGT-NY Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Me too Fonts. For me, it doesn't make sense to spend a bunch of money on exhaust bits and not spring for the extra $20 for a new gasket. It MAY not leak with the old gasket, but with a new gasket you have the peace of mind of knowing you have a good seal. And the last thing I want to do is have to pull the DP in a few months just to replace a stupid gasket. Long story short: Put a new gasket on when you install the DP and CBE. You'll be happy you did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnAWD Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 no need for snows +1, even here in Colorado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnAWD Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 BOV is for the noise, not going to lie. But i dont want to pay 200+ for a noise thing. The spec b has RE050A's on it. really nice. so excited to see what this is going to be like. what is the site for the pdx maps? Just say no to a replacement BOV simply for the noise factor. If you want more noise, remove the airbox silencer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonts Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Me too Fonts. For me, it doesn't make sense to spend a bunch of money on exhaust bits and not spring for the extra $20 for a new gasket. It MAY not leak with the old gasket, but with a new gasket you have the peace of mind of knowing you have a good seal. And the last thing I want to do is have to pull the DP in a few months just to replace a stupid gasket. Long story short: Put a new gasket on when you install the DP and CBE. You'll be happy you did. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPLGT Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Yepp^^^^you guys nailed it. Rehab is for quitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xihearthookersx Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 well does the cobb catted dp and teh borla CBE come with the gaskets??? got my AP sitting on the bench. after i get off work going to put it on. so excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPLGT Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Not that I am aware of. I have MR up and DP...bot new gaskets from Subaru. Rehab is for quitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threelions23 Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 There is a noticible difference from stage 1 to 2 i think, and the gt rumbles good the Borla catback you should be happy for now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyjr Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 You may want to check out the Tuning Alliance store . They are running specials for Stage II tunes . $ 50 a pop. I just bought one a few days ago and have been happy with it. Pobably not as good as the PDX tunes but the service is great . You will get the tune in just a few hours and can run it the same day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyjr Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 BTW go to the crucial racing website and buy their copper gaskets. They are a little pricey but well worth it. Also recommended is to get the DP wrapped for heat retension. JSC speed sells a nice black wrap , ties and paint to finish them off. It complements the Cobb heatshield and further reduces underhood/intake temps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike_Hawk Posted September 3, 2008 Share Posted September 3, 2008 Could you please make and post a vid and/or sound clip of your exhaust when it's done? I want to go with the same exact setup and want to know how it sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xihearthookersx Posted September 3, 2008 Author Share Posted September 3, 2008 yeah i will give a full review when i am done. take step by step pictures, and before and after exhaust tones. put the ap on last night. noticeable difference. i am happy with it. when i go to run 0-60 times though, it dispalyed the numbers the first time, but i did not do a hard launch. second and third time i did a hard launch and it did not display numbers. my boost is up to about 17.5 psi at 4810 elevation. that is with a stock stage one map. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoozeRS05 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 TMIC should be your next power upgrade, but don't sleep on suspension & braking, which should upgraded as a first priority, before power... My $0.02... EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LGT-NY Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Here is my mod list in order: First wave: Intake Cat-Back Second Wave: DP AP Protune Third Wave: Coilovers Headers UP TMIC Next Wave: Brake Upgrade (DBA 4000, Hawk HPS pads) Sways and Links And so on and so forth until im DEAD BROKE!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoozeRS05 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 Sorry to say, but I disagree with about 80% of your progression of modding there... Stock suspension is garbage IMO, and I would strongly recommend upgrading before going stg 2. I would start with sways, then struts/springs or coilovers, reinforced sway brackets, & our endlinks are pretty robust... Then power. UP if needed, AP, Catted DP, TMIC, tune, and so on... Brakes. Good fluid & pads, OEM rotors are fine at stg 2... Intake & CBE aren't nessesary/useful until into 300WHP+, especially when not tuned for them. I have a CBE on my mainly stock LGT, but only because I like to actually hear the motor... Once again, my $0.02... EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LGT-NY Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 That's OK, I worked out fine for me. Just out of curiosity, what would you have done differently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoozeRS05 Posted September 4, 2008 Share Posted September 4, 2008 I want a well-rounded LGT, plus I'm a DIY'er, which makes suspension an easy/safe choice... BUT, It is down right scary for me to think people are going stg 2 with an otherwise stock suspension... I found the limits of the suspension on my drive home from the dealership, which is waay under the power level of this car, stock IMO... EB's Subaru journal - 2005 LegacyGT Wagon & 2014 Forester FB25 (2008 specB - RIP) IG@legacygtliving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xihearthookersx Posted September 4, 2008 Author Share Posted September 4, 2008 wow you seem kinda angry boozer. so is all the legacy stock supsension garbage or just LGT? cuz i seem to think that the bilistiens work fine for me right now. next thing i am getting is sway bars. well a better tune over AP then sway bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xihearthookersx Posted September 4, 2008 Author Share Posted September 4, 2008 btw shipping got messed up, i wont get cbe and dp until monday >< sucks cuz i am going autoxing this weekend in helena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peteyjr Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Makes sense to do the DP/UP at the same time. Intake is questionable unless you are going for sound. In my opinion. start with Rear sways and springs (the cheap route), Upgrade to hawk HPS pads (I did the DBA rotor upgrade on the fronts) then UP/DP/CBE engine tune management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LGT-NY Posted September 5, 2008 Share Posted September 5, 2008 Makes sense to do the DP/UP at the same time. Intake is questionable unless you are going for sound. In my opinion. start with Rear sways and springs (the cheap route), Upgrade to hawk HPS pads (I did the DBA rotor upgrade on the fronts) then UP/DP/CBE engine tune management Well, my car is an 07, so it came with a catless UP. I wasn't necessary to replace it just to go stage 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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