mycotopian Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I know there will have to be a compromise but I would like to hear from some people that have already modified their suspension. What is a good setup to maximise the handling improvement with minimal effect on ride quality? I was thinking shocks springs and sways but whch ones? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC GT Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I would guess variable rate springs like the Tein High.Techs would work better than the pinks as a "best of both worlds" type of spring. But I haven't tried them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liquidiq Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I would try some sways. Perrin is coming out with some, and Cobb is coming out with some. Vacanza (spelling) already has some, but they are only sold in Japan. Make sure to get an alignment, get a little more aggressive on the camber and such. If that isn't enough, try some STi pinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sands Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 You will always sacrafice some ride quality for corner performance. Best bet is get some adjustables so you can button it down at the autox or HPDE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4_Maniac Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 Bah... No need to sacrafice a thing.. Too bad..I am the only one I know with them on a 05 Leg..so you will have to take my word for it.. Plus..you have to order them from Japan. Hipermax LS+ (more)http://www.hksusa.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.hksusa.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.hksusa.com/images/spacer.gifThe Hipermax LS and LS+ are specifically designed for "Luxury-Sport Vehicles" where improved handling characteristics are achieved while maintaining maximum ride quality. Hipermax LS/LS+ coilover kits are threaded shock body units with aluminum spring perches for full ride height adjustability (ideal to lower or raise height for various wheel sizes). The Hipermax LS have preset dampening and rebound while the LS+ offers 30-way dampening and rebound adjustment. Both the Hipermax LS and LS+ kits come with a special aluminum upper mounts that utilize a unique rubber bushing insert. These specially engineered upper mounts improve steering response without the sacrifice of ride quality that occurs with traditional solid upper mounts. Hipermax LS/LS+ also come completely assembled for an extremely easy installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycotopian Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 Bah... No need to sacrafice a thing.. Too bad..I am the only one I know with them on a 05 Leg..so you will have to take my word for it.. Plus..you have to order them from Japan. Hipermax LS+ (more)http://www.hksusa.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.hksusa.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.hksusa.com/images/spacer.gifThe Hipermax LS and LS+ are specifically designed for "Luxury-Sport Vehicles" where improved handling characteristics are achieved while maintaining maximum ride quality. Hipermax LS/LS+ coilover kits are threaded shock body units with aluminum spring perches for full ride height adjustability (ideal to lower or raise height for various wheel sizes). The Hipermax LS have preset dampening and rebound while the LS+ offers 30-way dampening and rebound adjustment. Both the Hipermax LS and LS+ kits come with a special aluminum upper mounts that utilize a unique rubber bushing insert. These specially engineered upper mounts improve steering response without the sacrifice of ride quality that occurs with traditional solid upper mounts. Hipermax LS/LS+ also come completely assembled for an extremely easy installation. Ya but how much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC GT Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 I'm thinking around $200-250 for Tein High.Tech springs. The problem is that they are special order items. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4_Maniac Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 $1800 for the HKS's but worth every penny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycotopian Posted January 24, 2005 Author Share Posted January 24, 2005 $1800 for the HKS's but worth every penny. I don't auto X so do I really need all that just to get some good street handling? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4_Maniac Posted January 24, 2005 Share Posted January 24, 2005 It's up to you. They are not meant for Auto-X.. I have Auto-Xed in them, but there are better options for that. These are are good street/light track option. But, they willl give you your better handeling and luxury ride. Just as you requested. If you go for the cheaper option, you will get what you pay for. You never want to comprimise too much when it comes to your cars suspension. There are alot of people on the board that are perfectly happy with just spring upgrades. But, I want a matched spring with the strut. Also the Hipermax's have a inverted strut like the STI. Like I said..you get what you pay for. B4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted January 25, 2005 Share Posted January 25, 2005 http://www.prodrive-usa.com/news_article.asp?nid=10&a=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unilat Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 http://www.prodrive-usa.com/news_article.asp?nid=10&a=0 The link is dead - Deer Killer, can you provide a synopsis of what was there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PGT Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 active shocks that have been in development and 'coming soon'. Very cool stuff, just not for sale yet, at least from Prodrive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4_Maniac Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Yes yes..sounds intresting indead.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 The Prodrive guys said they've been having a hard time updating their site or something last time I sent them an email a month or two ago. So who knows what's going on with them. Although I did see at the Detroit Auto Show that there will be an SPT/Eibach set of springs coming out soon. Those are what is going on my car with a 20mm JDM rear bar, or what I might essentially call a Stage 1. Fairly inexpensive (probably around $500 total) and it should be fairly effective at the same time. Stage 2 for me will be around 1000-1500 if I desire to go that route. That would be Bilsteins and STi pinks with upgraded bars front and rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycotopian Posted February 2, 2005 Author Share Posted February 2, 2005 B4 Where can I get that suspension setup? Bah... No need to sacrafice a thing.. Too bad..I am the only one I know with them on a 05 Leg..so you will have to take my word for it.. Plus..you have to order them from Japan. Hipermax LS+ (more)http://www.hksusa.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.hksusa.com/images/spacer.gifhttp://www.hksusa.com/images/spacer.gifThe Hipermax LS and LS+ are specifically designed for "Luxury-Sport Vehicles" where improved handling characteristics are achieved while maintaining maximum ride quality. Hipermax LS/LS+ coilover kits are threaded shock body units with aluminum spring perches for full ride height adjustability (ideal to lower or raise height for various wheel sizes). The Hipermax LS have preset dampening and rebound while the LS+ offers 30-way dampening and rebound adjustment. Both the Hipermax LS and LS+ kits come with a special aluminum upper mounts that utilize a unique rubber bushing insert. These specially engineered upper mounts improve steering response without the sacrifice of ride quality that occurs with traditional solid upper mounts. Hipermax LS/LS+ also come completely assembled for an extremely easy installation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
driggity Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 The Prodrive guys said they've been having a hard time updating their site or something last time I sent them an email a month or two ago. So who knows what's going on with them. What was Prodrive USA is no more and a new Prodrive USA is being established. There were apparently some big issues there. There's some info about it here: http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=709545 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4_Maniac Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 B4 Where can I get that suspension setup? You can get it new here... http://www.avoturboworld.com/avoshop/product_info.php?cPath=1_58_3_66&products_id=179 Or you can buy my used in about a month or so. Either way..you can't go wrong. B4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTCanada Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Or you can buy my used in about a month or so. What's next? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 First off, what kind of "handling" are you looking for? Usually tires and shocks is what you are really looking for (think Stock Class Solo2 rules). They retain the stock ride, but the firmer shocks will prevent the car 'skipping' and give you a better contact with the road. Currently there isnt much out there for aftermarket shocks except for the JDM Bilsteins. Possibly KYB AGXs would be in the future for you. Tires go a LONG way and tire pressure as well. Upgrade the front and rear sway bars to help aid the cornering loads to the inside wheels, the bigger the better since what I am suggesting to you will be based off using stock springs. If you want a lower center of gravity and less weight transferring, STi Pink Springs or TEIN S.Tech/H. Tech springs are fine as well. Oh, I forgot to mention, the stock front shocks have adjustable camber bolts, dial in as much camber as you can (usually no more than -1.25 degrees). Get a better toe-OUT alignment for faster turn-ins. You'll end up eating up more tires along the way, but you'll retain the stock luxury ride. Something has got to give when it comes between performance and luxury. If you want both, expect to pay more for that. Keefe Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racerdave Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 http://forum.e46fanatics.com/images/smilies/werd.gif He knows of which he speaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B4_Maniac Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 What's next? Tom I haven't decided. I may be moveing back to Japan for a while so I may have to sell my Legacy all together. But, as Keef said there are alot lot of options. Your desired handeling can be derived from a combination of smaller tweeks. But, I have found that the combination of sway bars and these coilovers have provided me with MORE than what I expected to get out of them, with sacrificing nothing. If I let go of my HKS's I will let them go for the $12-1300 range, cleaned and shipped to anyone who wants to buy them Whover moves on that will be getting a great deal..no argument. But, I will know next month what I will do with my Legacy. B4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mycotopian Posted February 4, 2005 Author Share Posted February 4, 2005 dibs on the setup. PM me know when you know for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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