gugarci Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 The stuttering issue on some of the Legacy turbos really has me concerned. I was all set to wait for a manual 09 Legacy GT or Spec B. But I'm still reading about stuttering issues on some Legacy's with no fix in sight. I know myself and this is the kind of shit that would drive me nuts. Rattles don't bother me but stuttering during acceleration will. I've driven an MS3 and I could certainly live with that car happily. But I'd be lying if I said I couldn't use the AWD. My driveway is at the back of my house on a long hill. Are there any other Subaru's stuttering??? Just curios but do the 08 STI's stutter??? How about the 07 STI's my brother just picked up a used one. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf2020 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 I'm not familiar with this problem. What is the "stuttering issue"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMarkLGT Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Plenty of posts on this topic. Just use the search forums function. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gf2020 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I searched and I see that only 60 owners have signed up for the "petition" regarding the stutter issue. That doesn't sound too widespread considering the thousands of Legacy GTs and Outback XTs that have been sold. Regarding the original poster, I looked at the Mazdaspeed3 hard before buying my Outback XT; I decided that AWD was a requirement for me, however. Heated seats too! No heated seats on the Speed3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gugarci Posted April 25, 2008 Author Share Posted April 25, 2008 I just took an MS3 again for a second test drive and I didn't like it as much. It's too loud for my taste and some torque steer. The Legacy is back on top again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TPLGT Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 If you find a decent Tuner, he can tune out the stutter...he did on mine...sweeeeettt! Buy the car, you will not regret it! Rehab is for quitters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gugarci Posted April 28, 2008 Author Share Posted April 28, 2008 Problem is my my car will most likely reamin stock. Although If I get one that sutters I'll see if Stage 1 can help. Cobb tuning has helped some Legacy's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I searched and I see that only 60 owners have signed up for the "petition" regarding the stutter issue. :lol: Are you serious? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBY3 Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 Stage 1 Accesport will make it disappear and give you a nice bump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gugarci Posted April 29, 2008 Author Share Posted April 29, 2008 But I would rather keep the car stock. Don't want to chance loosing the warranty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VT07SpecB Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 get the stage I AP. you will be very pleased you did it! i got mine the same day i picked up my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vader1 Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 the cobb ap can flash your car back to stock in ten minutes so no worries with the dealer. But it costs $700 I had really bad stutter, subaru can't and won't fix it. It drives much better after stage one and custom tunes are even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonts Posted May 13, 2008 Share Posted May 13, 2008 the cobb ap can flash your car back to stock in ten minutes so no worries with the dealer. But it costs $700 I had really bad stutter, subaru can't and won't fix it. It drives much better after stage one and custom tunes are even better. Well said. I went direct to Stage II and previous stutter all but gone. Don't get me wrong the car did stutter but it wasn't even close to a make or break issue. You simply learn to drive in such a way to avoid it. It certainly wasn't annoying enough that it would prevent me from buying the same car again ... especially considering all of the wonderful things about the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfiend Posted May 19, 2008 Share Posted May 19, 2008 I'm suprised no one has mentioned the dealer re-flash. I had some mild stutter, got it re-flashed at the dealer and bam, no more stutter. sure, you could go stage 1 or 2 and get rid of it, but a dealer reflash is free Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dr_sharp Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Few have had the stutter completely embelished by the factory reflash; and in most cases it comes back within 1000 miles. The cobb AP is, thus far, a permanent fix that has worked for all that have chimed in on these forums. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonts Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Few have had the stutter completely embelished by the factory reflash; and in most cases it comes back within 1000 miles. The cobb AP is, thus far, a permanent fix that has worked for all that have chimed in on these forums. Well said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbrunone Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 i had stutter dealer reflash did nothing but ruin gas mileage ap stg1 worked, then it came back after a few hundred miles stg2 was pretty good, was only there for a day though stg2+tmic+protune = no stutter at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vader1 Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 i had stutter dealer reflash did nothing but ruin gas mileage Thats what happened to me. Reflash cost me 25-30% in gas milage. Stutter came back within 1500 miles but the crappy gas milage stayed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass Posted May 20, 2008 Share Posted May 20, 2008 Just flashed my wifes car with a stage I AP. She used to have a very noticeable stutter, now it is all but gone. Just a very slight "hint" of it. Thinking of getting protuned to get her dialed in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfiend Posted May 21, 2008 Share Posted May 21, 2008 Thats what happened to me. Reflash cost me 25-30% in gas milage. Stutter came back within 1500 miles but the crappy gas milage stayed. Hmm, I'm almost to 1000mi after my reflash and it has not came back, and my gas milage is the same, so maybe the tune is getting better or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paycer Posted May 22, 2008 Share Posted May 22, 2008 The dealer reflash fixed most (95%?) of the stutter. Only under WOT acceleration did I feel some itty bitty stutters. Gas mileage stayed about the same. AP Stage I removed the stutter totally and gas mileage stayed about the same. AP State II kept the stutter gone and made the car pull like my STi did with the factory tune. Gas mileage went UP! Dad has an 07 GT and his stutter went away with the dealer reflash. I haven't discussed his fuel economy though but I'm sure I would have heard about it had it gone sucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
808LGT Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 the stutter issue is quickly solved by an overly meticulous left and right foot! the AP works too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABPillinois Posted May 29, 2008 Share Posted May 29, 2008 My OTS Cobb map was not much better than stock tune. E-tune Pdx maps for stage I and II are much better, still slightly noticeable. :rolleyes:"All right, brain, I don't like you and you don't like me - so let's just do this and I'll get back to killing you with beer." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtbrjason Posted May 30, 2008 Share Posted May 30, 2008 Just had mine flashed.. Problem seems to be solved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fonts Posted May 31, 2008 Share Posted May 31, 2008 Had mine protuned a little over a week ago. No stutter at all now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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