agctr Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 As reported by me, the new E90 M3 will have an all new V8 engine pushing out some 400HP. Read the attached thread for more. Enjoy Adam. [url]http://www.m3forum.net/m3forum/showthread.php?t=50203[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Nice Adam! Are there any spy shots? I didn't get a chance to look through those pages because I [i]should[/i] be studying for a final, but I just wanted to catch up on here first. -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Yes there are a few spy shots floating around but its very hard to tell what it is. They were taking while they were trialing the new running gear around the RING in Germany. Will try and dig them up for everyone. Hope you go well with your exams as well Ben. All the best Adam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan42025 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Is this it? Nice if you are the aggressive type. Love the wheels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADirtyLegacy Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 damn that's alot of wheel! Kenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandwood Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 it's also a 4 door. last road and track had photos of the new 3 series and they looked pretty much like that, tho not the wheels. they've tamed down the "flame" surfaces for the 3. I read about the 400hp v8 somewhere too. where are the hp wars going to end? getting out of the legacy game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT Ski Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 How much does it weigh though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GBY Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 That should give the Cobb Stage 2 Sti a run for it's money. Geeez Adam those people over there aren't very frindly are they, I suggest you give up on the BMW crowd and stick with us here ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUBE555 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 That thing is sooooo hawt! Yeah, good thing you're waiting out for that one Adam. It'll be worth it. I like that 4-door look too Adam. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drift Monkey Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 That concept drawing is nuts! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurpman Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Adam, any word on whether they will make an M3 wagon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dv8ingvector Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 OOOOO!!! An E90 M3 Wagon: yes please i will take two Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dustinw Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 And it's gonna cost what? Like $65K? The new M5 is tipping the scales over $100K with that dead sexy 500HP V10 in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dv8ingvector Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 well ok...maybe i get one M5 wagon then!? lol some day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05LegacyGT330Ci Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 A few select E39 M5 Estates were made, what I would do to get my hands on those specimens. '05 Black Legacy GT Wagon 5-spd '02 Topaz/Black 330Ci 5-spd Drift Ryder's School of Rally Arts, coming to an Australia near you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
axis008 Posted December 16, 2004 Share Posted December 16, 2004 Wow that picture above is pretty hot. Those wheels look SCARY. -ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted August 22, 2005 Author Share Posted August 22, 2005 Still unconfirmed, latest details are 4.0 V8 310Kw / 416HP Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fzanetti Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 Guys, With these numbers 4.0 V8 putting out 310Kw or for the America crowd its 416HP, heavy the way it is, I really don't think it will be muuuuuuuuuch faster than an STi or EVO or even our cars @ Stage II... An E36 M3 in 98 put out 240 hp making 5.5 and 14 secs in 01 an E46 M3 was putting out 343 hp reaching 60 in 5 secs and 1/4 in 13.6 secs Remember that we are increasing the displacement and the number of cylinders, and therefore the weight as well... Just as a comparison, the B5 S4 with its famous 2.7T Twin Turbos, stock was able to reach 60 in 5.5 secs and 14. The tiny 4.2 V8 was only able to increase .3 secs on that time... So a Stage I B5 is head to head with a B6 S4, and a Stage II B5 is faster than a newer B6 S4... Let's see the weight numbers first and then make conclusions on how fast this car will be I guess.... Flavio Zanetti Boston, MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wunderkind Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I actually would prefer that the M3 retains it's lighter weight I6 engine than stuffing a V8 in it a la the $4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilT Posted August 22, 2005 Share Posted August 22, 2005 I actually would prefer that the M3 retains it's lighter weight I6 engine than stuffing a V8 in it a la the $4. It's all in the marketing, to sell a performance car in the US, it's got to have a V8. Double Award Winning Legacy GT Wagon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted August 22, 2005 Author Share Posted August 22, 2005 The new E90M3 will be as light if not lighter than the current I6, thus giving the entire M a better overall weight distribution including better stance and road holding ability. Dont worry the M will surprise our other German Friends AMG, Porsche & Audi. Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted August 23, 2005 Share Posted August 23, 2005 Well, a V8 is shorter in length, so easier to package behind the front axle. And technology has advanced since the S54 engine was designed. Plus BMW has experience from the M5 V10 since then... A 4.0 liter V8 will have slightly smaller pistons than a 3.2 liter I6, and depending on deck height, might not have THAT much more block surface. Two heads and 4 cams, though, rather than a longer set of one head and two cams. 4 liters and 4 cams just seems like a V8 sweet-spot. Less balance, but more powerpulses than an I6. One wonders if it will be a 90 degree V8 like a small-block american V8, or a flat-crank (think 2-I4s with a common crank...) like a lotus or ferrari V8. Knowing BMW, it will be a stellar engine, given their V12 in the Italdesign Nazca and McLaren F1. (greatest engine ever??? Possibly... and costs more than a BMW 850. Yeah, the entire car.) However, I am still not sold on the E90 bodystyle. the E46 was big and rounded, and the E90 has gone further, with some lines thrown back in for Bangle measure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agctr Posted August 23, 2005 Author Share Posted August 23, 2005 Yeah agreed, the engine will totally suprise a lot of ppl including the competition. The E90 design certainly grows on you and a lot of the members at M3Forum are saying the same thing, they dont like the shape. I personally think that once the design of the 2 door hits the road and then we will start to see the M taking real shape, it will change a lot of ppl's minds. They are talking about STOCK 20" rims for starters so imagine the stance and aggressive styling on that. Its certainly a suck and see but sales of the E46M are still going strong so if yr looking to buy, order now or u will miss the boat..... Ada///M. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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