sde Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 [quote]K40 Laser detector and defuser. The system is able to beat police laser by emitting infared light that is on the same frequency as the laser gun. This causes the police officer to receive a "scanning error" message on their laser gun. The system fits neatly inside a specially designed license plate frame, right where police lasers are aimed.[/quote] would this really work? here's the link. [url]http://al-eds.com/indexframe.php4?category=1&whatpage=radar-home.php[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dv8ingvector Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 didn't you see the myth busters ;) !? they said it was BS...covering you car wit AL foil is right out too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 :werd: Mythbusters>* You can put that one back on teh shelf next to the Tornador, or whatever it's called :rofl: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Th3Franz Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 There are such things as laser shifters that will emit laser to interfere with police laser guns. It's basically like introducing noise, I think, and the laser gun usually is not intelligent enough to filter it out. Laser guns work by getting a series of readings for a vehicle's speed, and if the series of readings are not consistent within a tolerance, I think it displays an error or nothing at all. I remember reading this somewhere... I hear Escort and Blinder make some good laser shifters/jammers.. -Franz The end of a Legacy http://www.youtube.com/th3franz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 I call BS on that stuff.. laser is still a frequency afterall so you need something to really disrupt a frequency (and no, magnets wont work.. you'll need a very powerful magnet to disrupt or bend the waves around your car to make the laser read funny things. Keefe Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex1 Posted November 25, 2004 Share Posted November 25, 2004 wtf, even if it does work, the cop will come after you after seeing "error" for illegally blocking him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dv8ingvector Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 heh those guns read that all the time lol...but you are right, if he thought you were speeding he will come up with a # and ticket you for it, and for having something over your plate. (a 200 fine in my state). They hold all the cards...best way not to get a ticket is not to drive stupid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoundBoy Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 [quote name='Xenonk']I call BS on that stuff.. laser is still a frequency afterall so you need something to really disrupt a frequency (and no, magnets wont work.. you'll need a very powerful magnet to disrupt or bend the waves around your car to make the laser read funny things. Keefe[/QUOTE] Wow... any formal science training ?? :) Lasers are light. Period. If you disrupt the light (scatter, reflect at off angle, etc) then the laser will not get a good read on you. While it is true that jamming RADAR detectors would require emmiting a signal, and that is regulated by the FCC, and therefore illegal for you to do.... Light is NOT regulated by any agency, so you can emit what ever you will like. Note that putting many lights / colors on your car violates SOME state laws on the max allowed lights / driver distractions... but usually these jammers are infrared.. so nobody will notice them unless they are looking. This is NOT the same as defeating a red light camera, etc with reflective plates or light. That is still specifically illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 [quote name='RoundBoy']Wow... any formal science training ?? :) Lasers are light. Period. If you disrupt the light (scatter, reflect at off angle, etc) then the laser will not get a good read on you. While it is true that jamming RADAR detectors would require emmiting a signal, and that is regulated by the FCC, and therefore illegal for you to do.... Light is NOT regulated by any agency, so you can emit what ever you will like. Note that putting many lights / colors on your car violates SOME state laws on the max allowed lights / driver distractions... but usually these jammers are infrared.. so nobody will notice them unless they are looking. This is NOT the same as defeating a red light camera, etc with reflective plates or light. That is still specifically illegal.[/QUOTE] Visible light is still nothing but a frequency.. [url]http://www.adec.edu/tag/spectrum.html[/url] any "www.edu" info should be good in my book anyway, try carrying a class 4 or 5 laser and tell me that IS legal. Tell me where you think you can can buy one without a medical practice license? Keefe Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 anyways, you are looking for objects that can filter out laser or Infrared frequencies. Same goes for visable light if you want to think about in depth.. such as looking at colors.. if you look at a wall painted green, then that paint on the wall is filtering every other frequency other than green.. Keefe Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AreEyeSeeKay Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 In car and driver a few years back they were able to reduce the effective range of laser with a few tricks. Most involved removing reflective objects from the from of the car (license plate). The most effective trick involved massive driving lights which emit a ton of radiation in the infrared spectrum and using filters to filter out the visible light. That reduced the laser's range to a few hundred yards, which would give a laser detector time to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex1 Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 aight this is sweet we know what we need to do, lol lets create s black box to put in our cars that emits infared light or wahaever can block it lol !! well become rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sde Posted November 27, 2004 Author Share Posted November 27, 2004 i think that is what the license plate frame in question does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Gee, while we're going to all this trouble, how about a roof mounted missile that homes in on the source of the radar/laser? :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 [quote name='jedimaster']Gee, while we're going to all this trouble, how about a roof mounted missile that homes in on the source of the radar/laser? :D[/QUOTE] A friend of a friend like to drive in a big-arsed motor home, very rapidly. He was also a former NASA engineer (made very nice-sounding power amplifiers for a while), and made this device that would take in the radar signal, amplify it, and somehow disable the radar emitter. Pretty slick. I think that in most cases, what laser detectors do is tell you "Hey, you're about to get a ticket." Unless you get lucky enough to get some splash from a car near you, but the beam concentration is such that this is rare. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Wow! Some of you really need to do your homework before opening your mouths. "Laser" police speed guns are called LIDAR, which stand for Light Detection and Ranging. It uses infrared light to measure the speed of an object, not real lasers. The FCC does not have any regulations on the broadcasting of IR light and therefore a Lidar jammer is legal. The idea behind license plate covers and as a mounting point for jammers is becasue that's where the police are trained to aim the guns. The jammer mentiond at the begining of this post may or may not work, but I would put my $300 towards a better company, like escort. One other thing, these jammers are not desinged to completely screw up the cops readings, they are meant to delay them long enough for you to slow down so that when the cop gets a solid reading, it's the speed limit. The IR emiting black box idea could work....it would require about $30 in parts from radio shack. A Lidar gun simply has a bunch of LED's as the IR light source....kinda like your tv remote, My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 Mythbusters say different. Mythbusters=teh win! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 I saw that episode of mythbusters and was very dissapointed with it. They tested myths about ways to fool cops. Not actual jammers. So no, mythbusters does not win. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 [quote name='mwiener2']I saw that episode of mythbusters and was very dissapointed with it. They tested myths about ways to fool cops. Not actual jammers. So no, mythbusters does not win.[/QUOTE] Mythbusters wins. They're very smart and entertaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssaldana Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 haha jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 That part of that episode wasn't even done by Jamie and Adam, the real mythbusters. It was done by their shophands. My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 It was done by Kari, Scotty and Tory. Even the junior Mythbusters are > you. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ssaldana Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 what channel is mythbusters, tnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwiener2 Posted December 4, 2004 Share Posted December 4, 2004 discovery My Mods List (Updated 8/22/17) 2005 Outback FMT Running on Electrons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ideate Posted December 7, 2004 Share Posted December 7, 2004 The name of the game is reducing the return from your car. Your headlights, and front plate are targeted for this. If you don't have a front plate, consider yourself lucky. [url="http://www.laserveil.com/"]www.laserveil.com[/url] is a good product. Plus, it adds a slight blue tint to your headlights. My inner riceboy thinks this is very cool! :cool: LIDAR Jammers do indeed work, but you'll need to put more than just LED's around your plate frame, ala Mythbusters. (A side note: I'm a big mythbusters fan, but honestly the 'Beat the Radar Detector' episode was dissapointing.) A little intelligence is involved on the behalf of the jammer itself. [url="http://www.speedzones.com/"]www.speedzones.com[/url] recently tested the Blinder system, and were quite impressed. There's also mention of laserveil, which also works as advertised. But, as was previously mentioned - you need a good radar detector to go along with this, v1, escort, bel, whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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