sduford Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 I'm thinking of upgrading my fog lights with PIAA bulbs but the owner's manual says the fog light bulbs are difficult to change and that is is a job best letf to your dealer... Has anyone here attempted it? Is it really that difficult? Thanks, Sly Sylvain www.digitalfotographer.com - Audi Q5 Club - MB-GLK Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkkwan Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 On the legacy, you need to partially remove the underskirt that extends underneath the car from the wheel well to the bumper. Take off three grommets on each side, and you'll have access to the fog light bulb. Easier if you jack the car up a little. Maybe 5 minutes per side. It's probably the same on the Outback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest *Jedimaster* Posted November 19, 2004 Share Posted November 19, 2004 After having my fogs out, and looking underneath, I'd imagine the easiest way would be to remove the bumper, then remove the fogs and swap the bulbs out where you're not upside down and miserable. Please don't take this post as sarcastic. The bumper is pathetically easy to remove. BTW, I'd like brighter fogs too- let me know how you like the brighter bulbs :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnJaNir Posted November 22, 2004 Share Posted November 22, 2004 It takes all of 5 minutes. Get under the car remove like 3 push pins and pull down a piece of the under cladding. You can see the bulbs twist it out and replace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAVES XTOUTBK Posted November 26, 2004 Share Posted November 26, 2004 I'd be interested in higher wattage if it will make the lamps more functional. Any recommendations out there with regard to brand and wattage??? D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John M Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 Don't go higher than 55 watt. In my previous cars I blew 100w bulbs in days; changing to 55 watt they lasted for years. I decided to try 100w in this car and sure enough, less than 3 weeks after installation, one's out. Most fog enclosures get too hot for anything higher than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 [quote name='John M']Most fog enclosures get too hot for anything higher than that.[/QUOTE] I'm wondering how well a $5 computer fan on the back of the light assembly would work.. correct voltage available right there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnJaNir Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 I put silverstars in (low/high/fogs) and it made a wonderful difference. I suppose I could get some night pics one of these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtguy Posted November 27, 2004 Share Posted November 27, 2004 [quote name='EnJaNir']I put silverstars in (low/high/fogs) and it made a wonderful difference. I suppose I could get some night pics one of these days.[/QUOTE] Osram or Sylvania? The former is good, the latter isn't all that good. Though they do change the color temperature of the light, you don't see any better. Kevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnJaNir Posted November 28, 2004 Share Posted November 28, 2004 Sylvania. It did produce better lighting imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
05 Outback 2.5i Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 [size=2][font=Arial]Hello All,[/font][/size] [size=2][font=Arial] [/font][/size] [size=2][font=Arial] The fog lamp Bulb in the ’05 Outback is a 9006. Consider replacing with a similar wattage HIR bulb (9005 high beam can also be replaced with an HIR bulb). The tab on the base of the bulb needs minor modification to fit the housing, but the bulb puts out considerably higher lumens (1875 vs. 1000 lumens for a 55w bulb 9006 bulb – 9005 65w even better) for the same wattage. Here is a great writeup by Peaty on Scoobymods.com…[/font][/size] [size=2][font=Arial] [/font][/size] [url="http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3122"][u][font=Arial][size=2][color=#800080]http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/showthread.php?t=3122[/color][/size][/font][/u][/url] [size=2][font=Arial] [/font][/size] [color=black][font=Verdana]~Scott & Nadia '05 Outback 2.5i Wagon Willow Green Opal/ Moss Green Metallic 225/60HR16 BFG Traction T/A's[/font][/color] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IwannaSportSedan Posted December 2, 2004 Share Posted December 2, 2004 Thanks for the tip. It is interesting about the spherical globe on the HIR (Halogen, InfraRed), with an InfraRed reflective coating that bounces the sub-light radiant heat energy back to the filament, causing it to glow brighter, without having to passing more current through it, and not sacrificing bulb life in the process. (not overwattage) I wonder, if more of the heat is contained inside the globe of the bulb, if the headlight housing gets much less hot? If these work as advertized, it will be interesting to see if this gets accepted by the OEMs, Besides the Viper. Highly encourage reading the link. Is it bad manners for someone who is subscribed to scooby-mods to copy and re-post some of the comparison photos here, since scooby-mods members only can see the pics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 [quote name='IwannaSportSedan']I wonder, if more of the heat is contained inside the globe of the bulb, if the headlight housing gets much less hot? [/QUOTE] Yes, the point of the IR reflective coating is to reflect the IR range of the spectrum back at the filament, where it heats it further so that energy leaves as increased light output. Now, where are the H3 and H7 versions??!!???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTWag Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 Here is a link to some HIR H3 bulbs... dunno if these are good or anything about the dealer though... [url]http://www.offroadtuff.com/IPFbulbs.htm[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted December 3, 2004 Share Posted December 3, 2004 [quote name='GTWag']Here is a link to some HIR H3 bulbs... dunno if these are good or anything about the dealer though... [url="http://www.offroadtuff.com/IPFbulbs.htm"]http://www.offroadtuff.com/IPFbulbs.htm[/url][/QUOTE] errrr vertical filament vs horizontal filament? That might even got worse lighting.. IF it fits. Try it and let us know :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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