zildjiank Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 ^ Really? That's an interesting thought, wonder how much they are... I got it too, BUT I just replaced the tires and it seemed to have gone away. New pad are on order- HPS. I'll turn the rotors prior to the install 24k. So Hawk now offers pad replacements for our 05 LGT??? Are there any reviews yet that I missed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruowner840 Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 Discount Tire's policy is that they use manual torque wrenches to tighten lug nuts. I confirmed this was true (at least in my one sample) when I went there with my previous car. They did use a torque wrench. But I don't know if they did it in the right order, used the correct torque setting, or overtightened the lugs with the air gun. They use the air gun before the torque wrench. Any thoughts on the air gun overtightening the lugs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepe Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 ^ i think oem rotors are cheap enough to just buy another pair.. rather than spending the money to shave down old rotors, I rather just buy new ones. Not in Canada they cost me $220 cdn my wife's 04 Malibu they cost $24 cdn !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forestir Posted November 25, 2006 Share Posted November 25, 2006 They did use a torque wrench. But I don't know if they did it in the right order, used the correct torque setting, or overtightened the lugs with the air gun. They use the air gun before the torque wrench. Any thoughts on the air gun overtightening the lugs? Yes, this could be a logical flaw in their process. An air gun could over tighten, and then following up with a torque wrench would be meaningless because they would merely prove the lugs were "at least" 70 lb-ft (or whatever they set at). I think the shop used "torque sticks" on the air wrench, but I can't recall now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zildjiank Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 They did use a torque wrench. But I don't know if they did it in the right order, used the correct torque setting, or overtightened the lugs with the air gun. They use the air gun before the torque wrench. Any thoughts on the air gun overtightening the lugs? Frickin retards. I hate it when people air wrench my lug nuts...WAY TO DANG TIGHT!!! Last time my wheel was over tightened with one of those suckers, I broke my stock lugnut wrench... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mccorry Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 I never torque my wheels. Never have... never will. I use an air impact to install the lug nuts... set at around 90 psi. That does not cause warpage... I can still remove the lugs by hand, if necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulFWMotorsports Posted November 26, 2006 Share Posted November 26, 2006 Not in Canada they cost me $220 cdn So, that's like, what...22 real dollars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcas Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 So, that's like, what...22 real dollars? Actually your dollar is 15% better than ours now, that compares to 44% 20 years ago so at least it has gotten better for us here and then we buy more from you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA81 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Yes, this could be a logical flaw in their process. An air gun could over tighten, and then following up with a torque wrench would be meaningless because they would merely prove the lugs were "at least" 70 lb-ft (or whatever they set at). I think the shop used "torque sticks" on the air wrench, but I can't recall now. yes they use torque sticks, and if you see them doing it improperly, just tell the salesman air gun w/torque sticks-> torque wrench scroll all the way down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcas Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I kow several garages / tire shops that stopped using them they proved some what inacurate ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KA81 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 I kow several garages / tire shops that stopped using them they proved some what inacurate ? what you mean inaccurate? you mean metric --> imperial? ...lets see 75lbs -> 34.02kg's when dtc bolts up the wheel, they hand tighten (unlikey) and then use the torque sticks so they do not over-torque. then they use a torque wrench to make sure the wheel/lugs are tightened with the correct pressure. torque sticks are placed to prevent over-torque-age, how would that be inaccurate? to the OP, i guess the only option is to get it cut, but hey, at least they shouldn't charge you, only your time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raz-0 Posted November 27, 2006 Share Posted November 27, 2006 Well I used to have pulsating problems. I go with the crowd that says it isn't the rotors warping, but uneven deposits of pad meterial. I could always get themm to go away by rebedding the brakes, some light stop and go, and letting them cool properly. Oddly enough, I found now that i got rid of the stock tires for a set that don't get overwhelemed by the barkes and set off the ABS constantly, i don't have issues with that warped rotor feel very often. Perhaps it's coincidence, but i don't think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcas Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 what you mean inaccurate? you mean metric --> imperial? ...lets see 75lbs -> 34.02kg's when dtc bolts up the wheel, they hand tighten (unlikey) and then use the torque sticks so they do not over-torque. then they use a torque wrench to make sure the wheel/lugs are tightened with the correct pressure. torque sticks are placed to prevent over-torque-age, how would that be inaccurate? to the OP, i guess the only option is to get it cut, but hey, at least they shouldn't charge you, only your time I should have said not AS accurate with just the stick, they use the tq wrench to be sure of proper tq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darcas Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 I should have said not AS accurate with just the stick, they use the tq wrench to be sure of proper tq You do realize that the entire world used metric except ya'll fellers, yuk yuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MIKEBRAVO Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 So Hawk now offers pad replacements for our 05 LGT??? Are there any reviews yet that I missed? I haven't seem any reviews, but the guys that have them seem to like them. If you can afford College, you probably don't need to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melayout Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Pulstations during braking, could be one or a combination of the following: - Overtorqued lug nuts - Warped rotors - Bad brake pads On the LGT with stock pads and rotors, it is highly likely to be the pads, especially if you drive aggresively and brake late. Turning the rotors will fix the issue temporarily, until the next time you brake hard/late and the pad just sh!ts all over the rotor again. I keed I keeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subaruowner840 Posted November 28, 2006 Share Posted November 28, 2006 Well it was no coincidence that my brakes started pulsing and shaking 2 months after having tires rotated at Discount. The dealer did confirm that they were warped and need re-surfaced. I cannot pin it directly on DTC but seems odd to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTTuner Posted November 30, 2006 Share Posted November 30, 2006 what you mean inaccurate? you mean metric --> imperial? ...lets see 75lbs -> 34.02kg's when dtc bolts up the wheel, they hand tighten (unlikey) and then use the torque sticks so they do not over-torque. then they use a torque wrench to make sure the wheel/lugs are tightened with the correct pressure. torque sticks are placed to prevent over-torque-age, how would that be inaccurate? to the OP, i guess the only option is to get it cut, but hey, at least they shouldn't charge you, only your time Torque sticks are useless IMO. I have an 85 ftlb torque stick that will, with a strong enough air gun, will spin nuts down to 120 pounds. A torque wrench is the only way to ensure a specific torque. Even with that, if you don't use the wrench properly it will be inacurate. Paul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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