fzanetti Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Turbo Intercooled diesel hybrid engine!!!!! Way to go..... Fuel efficient, and torque giant!!!!! Way to go Subaru!!!! Flavio Zanetti Boston, MA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostamojen Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I just read that the TPH was completly canceled back in March, and that the hybrid currently being designed is slated for more like 2011 MY However, they are doing work on E85 motors and FHI is thinking of bringing the Diesel here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atouk Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 IMO Diesel has to be the next step. The technology long proven in other parts of the world, and now that the US is finally mandating "clean" diesel, I think the market will accept it quickly. The real question is does Subaru have the balls to be the first automaker in the US to offer diesel engines in all their cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deer Killer Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I already get 30+mpg on the highway @ 70;)uhh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red beast Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 i'll believe it when i see it. Subaru is a lot of talk but never brings it to market quick enough. i would prefer the hybrid/turbo/gas engine in next year cars. just think 0-60 5.5 sec. and 42 mpg. they wouldn't be able to make them fast enough. next would be the diesel/hybrid. then a plain diesel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongHiway Posted August 22, 2006 Share Posted August 22, 2006 Subaru is definitely not a market leader. Selling the # of cars they do, I don't think they want to take too much risk on what the public will buy let alone the technology they pursue. Somebody else will have to create the market for hybrid turbo diesels. Subaru is investing and would probably follow but my guess 3 - 4 years later, really wanting to see if a large enough market develops. SO, since there's nothing in the US market today, it's a while away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dondon Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I just read that the TPH was completly canceled back in March, and that the hybrid currently being designed is slated for more like 2011 MY However, they are doing work on E85 motors and FHI is thinking of bringing the Diesel here... Where did you read that the TPH was canceled? I'm very disappointed, since I was hping on a possible hybrid Legacy in the 2009/2010 timeframe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I just read that the TPH was completly canceled back in March, and that the hybrid currently being designed is slated for more like 2011 MY I also havent heard of this before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Diesel is gonna have to wait. The only diesel coming to America next year is from Mercedes. They are the only ones meeting EPA standards. Jeep Liberty diesel is being cancelled. It will only have 2 years of production. No more diesel VWs either. As for the fate of all those diesel trucks I do not know. Perhaps they are exempt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLegacy99 Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 I want a Superchaged Turbo diesel hybrid that can also run on hydrogen. Is that asking too much? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostamojen Posted August 25, 2006 Share Posted August 25, 2006 Where did you read that the TPH was canceled? I'm very disappointed, since I was hping on a possible hybrid Legacy in the 2009/2010 timeframe. I could tell you but i'd have to shoot you... It was on Subarunet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P06781 Posted August 26, 2006 Share Posted August 26, 2006 I have a 03 jetta tdi and love the great mileage and they can easily be modded for more power. I wish subaru would come out with a wagon and a small turbo diesel and awd that would get in the 40's for mpg. If they were smart they would make the engine biofuel flexable as the VW will only let you use b-5 (5% biodesiel) without hassleing about the warrenty. I would aim for b20 fuel based on the astm specs for us biodiesel. I just got back from wisconsin and my fatherinlaws van is flexfuel. He runs E85 in it with no problems and slightly less mpg but its only $1.89/g at the pump. They have E20 high octane 91 for less than regular also and wondered if that would work in the GT without problems? Custom e20 map? Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vimy101 Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 I just got back from wisconsin and my fatherinlaws van is flexfuel. He runs E85 in it with no problems and slightly less mpg but its only $1.89/g at the pump. Jim Ethanol is highly subsidized and has ~70% the BTUs of gasoline. Once the refiners make the switch to low sulpher diesel fuel, turbo diesel motors will be the way to go. When crude breaks the $100 mark in today's dollars (the greenback is going to take a hit in the next decade), turbo diesel hybrids will begin to make sense. However, when bests the $100 mark, it's going to be a different world. The US will suffer because of its cheap fuel profligacy. Remember, taxes from fuel sales are very important to state and local gov'ts for road building/maintenance. Things are going to get interesting because assuring fuel supplies costs money. I.E. Iraq @ $1.5 billion/week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanboy Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 direct injection direct injection direct injection direct injection direct injection direct injection direct injection HURRY UP ALREADY Toyota has experience with it in mainstream products. One design with a few pressure variances could cover 80% of their cars (2.5L) Huge benefit for the turbo models: better off-boost response, better fuel economy, lower emissions and more power. Bet EPA ratings for a DI LGT would be 22/29, equal to the current NA 2.5L Legacy. -B http://www.standardshift.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P06781 Posted August 27, 2006 Share Posted August 27, 2006 Ethanol is highly subsidized and has ~70% the BTUs of gasoline. Once the refiners make the switch to low sulpher diesel fuel, turbo diesel motors will be the way to go. When crude breaks the $100 mark in today's dollars (the greenback is going to take a hit in the next decade), turbo diesel hybrids will begin to make sense. However, when bests the $100 mark, it's going to be a different world. The US will suffer because of its cheap fuel profligacy. Remember, taxes from fuel sales are very important to state and local gov'ts for road building/maintenance. Things are going to get interesting because assuring fuel supplies costs money. I.E. Iraq @ $1.5 billion/week. In Portland most of the diesel is alreadly ulsd. I know that there was some discussion of the selling E85 at below market prices at Milwaukee in the last sunday paper. I think ethanol is a good idea and actually compliments biodiesel as most farmers grow 2 years corn and rotate to 1 year soybeans (soy oil) . The worst part of ethanol is that unlike biodiesel you must distill the ethanol from the water which wastes lots of energy. Biodiesel just separates like oil and water and has much higher energy return. Biobutanol holds some promise, more like gasoline ... http://thefraserdomain.typepad.com/energy/2006/06/dupont_bp_to_pr.html#more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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