Ridgeracer Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Hey all, I have a set of Ksports that have been creaking alot in the front for weeks now. I mainly happens when I turn the wheel left or right. It is very random. It never happens at the same time. I have tried everything to fix the problem but to no avail. I'm not sure what else I can do now. Any suggestion would be helpful. thx Things done thus far: Readjusted preload...4 times..!! Cleaned and greased rubber bushings for spring perch(top and bottom). Cleaned spring perch and used a hammer with perch wrench to lock. Locked upper and lower ride height lock rings with hammer. Did a four wheel alignment with stock settings. Removed pillow ball, cleaned and relubed Tightened locknut on top with a wrench to hold shock shaft. Checked bolt/nuts on top hat Disconnected sway bar in front...no help Im sooo tired of pulling the front wheels....please help guys/gals "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobY Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 I was gonna say tighten the piss out of your pilloball but it seems you have that covered already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownBoy Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 any chance that your brake line mounts are hitting something? That might be worth a try... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy05 Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Are you sure its the k-sports and possibly that it might be the h-brace that needs to be tightened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted May 28, 2006 Author Share Posted May 28, 2006 Well with the front wheels in the air, there is no noise. If it was the H brace then you would still hear something right? BTW about 6 months ago I check those bolt and they would not budge. Its like SIA put gorilla torque on it. Thanks for the heads up anyways. "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted May 28, 2006 Author Share Posted May 28, 2006 any chance that your brake line mounts are hitting something? That might be worth a try... Nope....I used zip ties to hold the brake and ABS lines to the shock bodies. I checked for interference and got nothing. Now my next question is, if I understand this correctly, the shock shaft, spring, and lower mount should turn as one with the pollow ball correct? "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted May 28, 2006 Author Share Posted May 28, 2006 Any more ideas...? "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big lou Posted May 29, 2006 Share Posted May 29, 2006 Couple things you can try that worked for me... 1. Don't overtighten the lock nut that holds the shock shaft (I was told by Ksport to lossen the locknut, turn the wheels fully to the left and right and then torque the locknut to 40 lbs) - this made it go away for awhile but the creaking would come back. 2. Actually drive around at full stiff for a couple of days and then soften the dampening to whatever you like (mine is set at 50% front and back) Eventually, the creaking went away. I'm not sure what exactly what I did but it was a combination of the above. Good luck! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 Thanks Lou. I just don't understand. They where so OEM quiet when I first installed them. I was actually expecting noise to occur then. I'lll try both suggestions then report later. "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted May 31, 2006 Share Posted May 31, 2006 springs are probably binded to the top strut and it's spinning along the spring perch a bit.. white lithium grease on the spring perch and top hat will fix it for the mean time.. if it still makes noise, look at your control arms... EDIT: sorry, i used the wrong word, I was thinking of something else. You could be grinding either the top hat or the spring perch.. it should be all as one unit and not move in relation to all 3 parts (top hat, spring, and spring perch). Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted May 31, 2006 Author Share Posted May 31, 2006 springs are probably binded to the top strut and it's spinning along with the control arm a bit.. white lithium grease on the spring perch and top hat will fix it for the mean time.. if it still makes noise, look at your control arms... Thx Keefe. I always though that the spring, strut body, strut shaft, locknut and pillow ball should turn as one unit when you turn the wheel left or right. Am I mistaken? "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boostjunkie Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 No, you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobY Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 They do turn as one unit... The piloball is the pivot point and the bearing. Ideally the perches and the spring should not move in relation to each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 Now let me ask this question. If you have your preload incorrectly set up, will it also cause this problem? I ask because I only have about 4 full turns past snug or seated on the lock collars. Should I have 10-15 full turns on them? "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted June 1, 2006 Share Posted June 1, 2006 the more you compress, the more you are preloading them.. too much pre-load will make you have a bouncy car.. Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted June 1, 2006 Author Share Posted June 1, 2006 I does get a little bouncy up front. I might turn them down some tomorrow. So Keefe, whats a good starting setup for preload.? Whats the range? "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted June 4, 2006 Author Share Posted June 4, 2006 Well after this weekend with all the rain in the tri-state area, I noticed the creaks getting more frequent. So I go and check the front coilovers and found the rubber bushings for the lower spring perches on both sides broken. The springs tore right through them. Now I have to find some replacements. In the mean time, I used some mox tape around the spring perch to help cushion them. I still have the noise. I give up. "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 I does get a little bouncy up front. I might turn them down some tomorrow. So Keefe, whats a good starting setup for preload.? Whats the range? I did a couple of different amounts of preload, from 25 lbs, to 150 lbs.. for a daily drive with just me in the car, I dont go any higher than 100 lbs, but then again, I run on zeals.. you can try 50 lbs preload, or 100 lbs preload and see how that feels. As for the range, it's anywhere from 0 until the spring binds =P But I wouldnt go anything lower than 25 lbs and I wouldnt go any higher than 250 lbs for our cars.. but again, it's really relative to the car's weight. just convert your spring rates from kg/mm to lbs/in (which should be a factor of 1:56... so a 10 kg/mm spring is around 560 lbs/in).. you'll also have to count the number of turns it takes to move the collar up 1".. so if it takes 12 full turns to move the collar up 1", you'll know how much you are prelaoding.. to get 50 lbs of preload on a 560 lbs/in spring with 10/turns=1", then you only need to make it close to one full turn on the collar. Simple stuff.. just mark off your coilovers using a permanent marker.. (as I will have some pics up soon of my recent corner balance, ride height adjustment, and spring preload how-to on the 2.5RS I just worked on this weekend. Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted June 4, 2006 Share Posted June 4, 2006 Well after this weekend with all the rain in the tri-state area, I noticed the creaks getting more frequent. So I go and check the front coilovers and found the rubber bushings for the lower spring perches on both sides broken. The springs tore right through them. Now I have to find some replacements. In the mean time, I used some mox tape around the spring perch to help cushion them. I still have the noise. I give up. Zeals and Cusco Zero-2Rs dont even have rubber boots for the spring perches and spring cushion.. and I dont get noise. Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted June 5, 2006 Share Posted June 5, 2006 have you checked if your springs are binding?? that creaking sound may also be the sound of the springs all binding at one point or another. Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 I think they are. How do you correct this? "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenonk Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 you dont, you need new and different springs that have a larger gap between the wounds.. the other thing is to actually get rubber spring sleeves which is similar to what Tein springs come with on their H-techs and S-techs.. basically it's a rubber jacket that goes over the spring coils that bind to prevent any metal sounds being generated. Keefe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgeracer Posted June 6, 2006 Author Share Posted June 6, 2006 Thanks Keefe. I'll try that and see if it works. "Gimme mines Balboa...Gimme mines".....Clubber Lang - Mr. T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Ed Posted July 10, 2007 Share Posted July 10, 2007 ok, bringing this back for a solution...... I am having the same issue on an install we did last week. creaking from one of the front coil overs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebpda9 Posted July 11, 2007 Share Posted July 11, 2007 mine made noise on some occasions in the winter time but that is about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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