belfer999 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 I'm sure you'd love it and hate it. Audi VW has major reliability and Quality problems. But it would be a great car most of the time. I got rid of my Audi TT to get the subaru. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TYNY Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 if you get the GTI and keep getting passed by LGT's - "we told you so" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red beast Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/pipexdsl/o/aoon43/images/bs1.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWD_Rules3830 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 I say buy the GTI. That puts one more slow car on the road for the rest of us to pick on . . . Nice I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CosmosMpower Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Just go test drive one and you will talk yourself out of it. After selling the M3 the new GTI looked really tempting other than the obvious FWD and the price was right. I went to test drive one and I HATED it, shifter was rubbery and too long, clutch uptake sucked and the power was not linear at all even with a small turbo 4 cylinder. So I got a RX8 instead, kind of wish I got the LGT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dolesun Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 My question is where was it made? I know they have Jettas made in Mexico. On a side note, you see that glass plant they have in Dresden? Even if they have issues why do people still buy them? It's like knowingly buying American. GTIs are made in Germany Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xantium Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 Just go test drive one and you will talk yourself out of it. After selling the M3 the new GTI looked really tempting other than the obvious FWD and the price was right. I went to test drive one and I HATED it, shifter was rubbery and too long, clutch uptake sucked and the power was not linear at all even with a small turbo 4 cylinder. So I got a RX8 instead, kind of wish I got the LGT. Why do you regret the rx8? Im literally trading my legacy in for an 8 in two days. edit: i should note that i have just a regular legacy. I was going to trade up to an 06 wrx BUT the insurance on the wrx is quite high. Insurance on the 8 is EXACTLY the same as my 2.5i legacy! Minus the extra cash simply becuase it has a way higher msrp, but its in the exact same catagory (5-22 while the wrx was 8-26) Keep in mine each point is about %10. So that wrx would have been %60 more per month! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Euclid Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 RX-8: supercar gas mileage without the supercar performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silverstar Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 I can't speak of the MK5 VWs, I had a VR6 MK4 Jetta. It was fun at first, but I like working on cars and had trouble justifing doing anything to the car: lower the suspension - it looks cool but suspension geometry is turned to poo, add a supercharger - wwwweeeeee!!! the one wheelie squealie. I was tired of the fact that I couldn't do much to the car to enhance performance. I didn't have many troubles with the car, but the synchros sucked. 2-3 always seemed to grind under power. Some of the interior pieces also seemed to scratch and crumble at the slightest touch. I traded it in for a used 05 LGT a month ago and have never been happier. It is a joke to compare the two cars. The subie is more power, more traction, more room, more class. Buy the VW if you want a "fast" Buy the Suby if you want to be fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWD_Rules3830 Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 RX-8: supercar gas mileage without the supercar performance. the combo of RWD v. AWD in tricky weather situations and the low gas mileage is why i got the Leggy over the the RX-8. I love my car ... basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eldiablo Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 I was a big fan of my 96 GTI VR6. That was then and this is now... every VW owner I know today can't wait to be rid of them! In a related story... 3 college kids in a brand new GTI pulled up along side and smirked at me today. Light turned green and their jaws hit the floor... I still don't think they knew what they were up against. You made the right decision. My VB Garage... Pumping the air back into despair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra commander Posted May 27, 2006 Author Share Posted May 27, 2006 I was a big fan of my 96 GTI VR6. That was then and this is now... every VW owner I know today can't wait to be rid of them! In a related story... 3 college kids in a brand new GTI pulled up along side and smirked at me today. Light turned green and their jaws hit the floor... I still don't think they knew what they were up against. You made the right decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
analogguy Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 While I was waiting for the paperwork for my Spec. B to be processed, I asked to drive a GTI (with DSG). Great engine and tranny (very quick shifts and virtually no turbo lag) but it is still a VW. I traded in a 1999 GTI VR6 that was rife with mechanical, quality, and build issues. If VW was so sure that their quality was so much improved they should offer much longer warranties. A friend of mine owned a Hyundai that had like a 10 year powertrain warranty. That car was always in the shop. The point of offering a long warranty period should be that the car was built right in the first place and should last, not so much that it will be fixed when it breaks. I want to drive the car I buy, not the loaner because it is being repaired. Stay away from the VW. Did I mention how expensive VW parts are? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phuzaxeman Posted May 27, 2006 Share Posted May 27, 2006 get the gti so i can i race you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
algol Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Why do people buy VWs? Two words: MIND CONTROL I advise you drive both cars before you make a decision. The subaru will sell itself... it sure did for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew_j Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 The new GTI is an incredible drive and a great motor. The major minus is unknown and likely less reliable than a Subaru. The other major negative are 2 doors are missing. However a four door is going be introduced within the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sarcomax Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 The gti looks slightly unfinished from the front. I think that it is the plastic on the front that they thought made it look like it was mesh. If you must go v-dub, get a split window bus, and if you need speed, get a split window bus and put a porsche motor in it. You will never tire of seeing the face of a kid in a civic with a shopping cart wing on it as he gets is doors blown off by a 60's bus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fazzster Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 I have struggled with allure of German cars and finally broke down and got an Audi TT after owning a WRX..........Don't do it.....The WRX started every morning. The Audi did not. I have returned to Subaru after leaving her for a siren song. I felt like a whore until my Legacy came into my life. Now, we are both faithful to each other and can live happily ever after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tommyh Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 So, whats your thoughts so far? I'm assuming you posed the same question on a GTI forum. What do they have to say? Martin Luther - "Who loves not women, wine and song remains a fool his whole life long." EL4NFZT7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godwhomismike Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 RX-8: supercar gas mileage without the supercar performance. Couldn't have said it any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B2.5GT Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 Don't buy it, VW are a pain to work with and they have lots of problems. We had a VW Beetle TDI in the shope for three weeks after it got a timing belt changed then it wouldn't start and nobody new how to fix, until my boss finally took that VW to VW Dealer. With my experence everything about VW are weird and most of the things are made on VW don't make sense to me. I would never own one, put that's just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STi Boy Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 thats easy....i was so close to buying one..got price quotes and about to head to dealer to test drive and buy that day... but i decided to see how much a legacy gt would cost me..the sticker was 31,009 and i got quoted 26,363.. easy decision....stopped at subaru dealership, test drove the LGT and purchased it...didnt even bother looking at the GTI that i thought i was about to get and i also didnt want to deal with VW reliability Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenzo Posted May 28, 2006 Share Posted May 28, 2006 ... likely less reliable than a Subaru... Candidate for the Understatement Of The Year award... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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