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I've searched a little bit and I'm pretty sure it's impossible but I'll ask it anyway.

 

Can I get this (Pioneer AVIC-Z1):

http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pio/pe/images/portal/cit_3442/295632461AVIC-Z1%20regular.jpg

 

Into this:

http://www.autobytel.com/images/carcom/2005/Subaru/05_Subaru_Legacy_GT/400/05_Sbru_Lgcy_GT_exfrdrvr34.jpg

 

The only reason I ask is I may be able to get a good deal on one.

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It's possible, you will have to fabricate the housing though.

 

Check out these threads.

 

Navigation install...

http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=22908&highlight=navigation

 

Pictures of things that have been installed... To give you some ideas.

http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=26426&highlight=navigation

Check out post # 4, 14, 22, 25, 57, 58, 70

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Double din install is relatively easy, as far as custom installation goes. You need to cut about the same amount of plastic away behind the cubby as you would for the AVO single din install. The only hard part is how much effort you put into the bezel to cover it. This is my Kenwood install:

http://www.photodump.org/stored5/ken_nav1.JPG

Now double din in place of the OEM radio is also possible, but that's some serious custom work... This is Daswrx's isntall:

http://www.photodump.org/stored5/oemdouble.jpg

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I just picked one of those up along with the navi bezel. The bezel itself has too small an inside diameter so it needs to be trimmed to fit the screen. Other than that, it should fit fit in there, just need to figure out the best way.
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Wow, I was under the impression you couldn't break up the circuit board behind the center console. That's impressive. I wouldn't want sat nav down there though, I'm sure it's distracting enough to have it closer to your line of sight. In the interest of saving me a few seconds searching, would anyone mind telling me where they got their double din cubby kit?
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I wouldn't want sat nav down there though, I'm sure it's distracting enough to have it closer to your line of sight.

 

Personally, I prefer my navigation mounted near my line of sight. My navigation system has a screen that folds out of the center cubby, and it's nice because I never have to take my eyes off the road. I think it would be more distracting having to look down. That's just my opinion, everybody will think differently.

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http://www.avoturboworld.com/avoshop/images/300_doubledin001.jpg

This piece doesn't work in our cars, its for right hand drive cars only. Double din in the dash must use a custom made bezel and mount, regardless if you start with the OEM cubby version (like I did) or the '06 OEM nav version.

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I'm actually in the process of installing the Z1 now. Yes, you do have to remove a lot of the plastic behind the cubby but it's relatively soft plastic and a jigsaw or straight bladed hack saw will make short work of it. You have yo use the navi bezel and since the bezel was designed for a 6.5" screen, the 7" Pioneer screen will not fit behind it like an oem piece. So you need to enlarge the opening of the navi bezel to accomodate the unit. A small dremel saw will work but it does take time and patience (a lot of patienc) and many, many trial fittings. Also, because of the size of the Pioneer, you will not get a flush fit like an oem or some of the other gps projects on here. The Pioneer will stick out about an inch. I am starting to do the wiring now but it looks straight forward too.
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You have yo use the navi bezel and since the bezel was designed for a 6.5" screen

 

Also, because of the size of the Pioneer, you will not get a flush fit like an oem or some of the other gps projects on here.

 

You can also use the OEM non-nav bezel. I found it to be plenty wide with the only custom work needed to make the opening taller.

 

There is plenty of depth to be had behind either bezel. The head unit will need to be installed level (with respect to the ground) to clear the box beam, but there is nothing but soft plastic preventing more installation depth. The vents are spaced conveniently DIN width apart. My kenwood screen tucks away in the off position, but when powered on, I'm able to use the tilt feature to match the rake of the screen with the angle of the bezel surface, without any protusion.

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That was my first thought, but after looking at it I decided not to go that route because after opening it up a bit (to accomodate the heighth), it would have been too large an opening by about an inch. I think the Z1 may be larger depthwise than the Kenwood. After trimming out all the plastic I could, I still found that it would only go as far back as the steel beam in the back. I think it is too tall to rest on top of that beam (but I'm not 100% sure on that and I won't know until I take the radio stack out and really get in behind there).
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After trimming out all the plastic I could, I still found that it would only go as far back as the steel beam in the back. I think it is too tall to rest on top of that beam (but I'm not 100% sure on that and I won't know until I take the radio stack out and really get in behind there).

The Kenwood would not fit depth wise unless it was slid in above the beam. Your Pioneer, assuming it is deeper, will most certainly need to be installed above the beam in order to keep things in check on the business end. The top of my screen, or the headunit itself anyway, it right at the top of the OEM opening. After the screen is tilted out flush with the vents, the bottom is using nearly all of the realestate (height wise) afforded by cutting out the trip computer.

 

I guess my ultimate goal may be different than yours. I was not willing to accept anything other than a flush appearence when the screen was powered on and tilted. I did not want anything protruding beyond the oem bezel.

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how did you get around the circuitboard on the backside of the stock bezel?

 

I put an AVIC n1 up in the cubby and would love to put a touch screen monitor in place of the factory stereo.

 

Double din install is relatively easy, as far as custom installation goes. You need to cut about the same amount of plastic away behind the cubby as you would for the AVO single din install. The only hard part is how much effort you put into the bezel to cover it. This is my Kenwood install:

http://www.photodump.org/stored5/ken_nav1.JPG

Now double din in place of the OEM radio is also possible, but that's some serious custom work... This is Daswrx's isntall:

http://www.photodump.org/stored5/oemdouble.jpg

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how did you get around the circuitboard on the backside of the stock bezel?

 

I put an AVIC n1 up in the cubby and would love to put a touch screen monitor in place of the factory stereo.

 

That is Daswrx's setup. He's been MIA for awhile :iam: . He was supposed to do a write up but never pulled through. I wonder if someone else is up to the task to do a write up. Any takers???

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To the original poster. I have now completed the Pioneer Avic Z1 install and it does fit and it does work quite well. Despite my best efforts, it simply cannot be installed flush, it's just too long (deep). It's not a hard install but the wiring can be a little tedious, so remember, wire ties are your friend.
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First post huh? Your second post on LegacyGT.com com will most likely be how you used the SEARCH feature to find the original thread where that picture came from. And then we'll all laugh about how much time it actually took member DASWRX to custom fabricate that install and how you thought you could pick it up at the corner.

 

Trust me, I wish it was that simple...

i gonna buy this pod... someone can tell me where can i buy it ?

 

 

this one....

 

http://www.photodump.org/stored5/oemdouble.jpg

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